Rendita Catastrale

03/24/2013 - 09:43
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Sorry to dig up this old chestnut again folks, but I am trying to calculate my IMU for this year and have already found loads of information from previous posts and have downloaded all the forms etc.  However, what is slightly confusing me is the Rendita Catastrale.  So, a few very simple (surely?!) questions from an ignoramus! From my deed and I have confirmed the accuracy on the Agenzia Entrate web site, I have for the property building (Cat A/4, Classe 2, 3,5 vani) a sum.....  say €100. Then, as I have land... (Semi Arbor, Classe 2), I have two further amounts....  Reddito Dominicale... say €4, and Reddito Agraio.... say €3. Queries: Do I add all three amounts together to give me the full Catastrale Value to enter onto the IMU calculation to give me a R C of say... €107? Just some terminology if someone would be good enough to clarify please....  Cat A/4, Classe 2, 3,5 vani etc? Semi Arbor / Classe 2? Then the split for the land.... Reddito Dominicale & Reddito Agraio & what are the implications?   I wish to put a wooden shed on the land and have some sort of barbeque area with a pergola etc? Do I need to have 'permission to do this as they will not be permanent structures?  I also need to disguise the hideous new bombolone & fence installation with some planting...  I know I can't plant trees, but a few high growing shrubs would help to improve this present eyesore....  How strictly do you have to comply with the species given in the deed for your zone (RE-1/RP-1/2)? As usual I have had conflicting advice!

Ignor reddito agrario - it is for registered farmers.  If your comune charges IMU on land then you will need the RD -reddito domenicale of your land plus the Reddito of the buildings. However they are usually charged at different rates.  YOur visura means this - your house is an A class, ranging from hovel to palace A2 to A9 and is divided into catastal rooms - not real roooms - eg 4.5 rooms - (this should be replaced with square metres, but its taken 10 years so far and little has been done) - the reddito is your theoretical rental income (From about 50 years ago) Land is divided into types, in your semi arborato - a few trees - and not of great quality. Wodden shed: depend where you are.  Sheds are usually ok, but some comunes decide they are garages.  If its wooden and non permanent (ie has a wooden roof and not tiles) you will probably be ok unless the neighbours complain.    Disguising bombolone is easy - bung in some bay (eloro) and in a year it will be hidden.  Again the typs of plants depends on your area - some highly protected areas  only allow planting that is typical of the zone - which means mediterranean.  Try planting kiwi fruit and you're done for.  YOu must just respect the distance from your boundary.   

Ignor reddito agrario - it is for registered farmers.  If your comune charges IMU on land then you will need the RD -reddito domenicale of your land plus the Reddito of the buildings. However they are usually charged at different rates.  YOur visura means this - your house is an A class, ranging from hovel to palace A2 to A9 and is divided into catastal rooms - not real roooms - eg 4.5 rooms - (this should be replaced with square metres, but its taken 10 years so far and little has been done) - the reddito is your theoretical rental income (From about 50 years ago) Land is divided into types, in your semi arborato - a few trees - and not of great quality. Wodden shed: depend where you are.  Sheds are usually ok, but some comunes decide they are garages.  If its wooden and non permanent (ie has a wooden roof and not tiles) you will probably be ok unless the neighbours complain.    Disguising bombolone is easy - bung in some bay (eloro) and in a year it will be hidden.  Again the typs of plants depends on your area - some highly protected areas  only allow planting that is typical of the zone - which means mediterranean.  Try planting kiwi fruit and you're done for.  YOu must just respect the distance from your boundary.   

In reply to by Ram

Thanks Ram, all is clear..   Great advice as usual... appreciated,  I even got it twice!! I did plant a few small pyracantha around the fence and soon realised that there would be no hope of an English country garden!  Solid clay... in that area anyway. Did you mean Bay or Laurel? The land is also sloping, so hoping to terrace it with the help of a guy with an excavator!  A few stone walls as I gather a load of stone is relatively cheap to buy, some Olive trees, a vine over the pergola and that will be about it!

I forgot about Oleanders....  Tried several times to grow them in pots in the UK, always lost them, despite covering them with fleece every winter.  Good idea, thanks Gala. I looked at the temperatures for my region of Umbria yesterday.... 19 degrees!  Here in the UK it was zero and if you factor in the wind chill, it felt like -12!  You cannot imagine how cold it felt & we are all heatily sick of it! PS..  Just had an email 'offer' of 6 x Oleander bushes for £20... what a coincidence!  My suitcase will be full of plants next visit... Glad I didn't book RyanAir!

In reply to by Fillide

This was a regular flyer I get from 'gardenbargains.com' here in the UK, just happened that way...  Your suggestion is highly unlikely anyway Steve.... as all cookies & history are cleared from my mac several times daily especially at the moment as it keeps crashing! At £3.30 per 50-65cm plant, I do not think that is expensive & I will be bringing them, not sending them.  There are very few plant outlets near me that I know of, so for the time being and until I get to know the area better, I would prefer to buy/bring or send things that I am unsure of being able to get in Italy, from the UK to save time and hassle.  My trips to Italy are somewhat limited to weeks here & there, rather than months at the moment so time is precious, especially during this renovation period.  Give me a chance Ram, I have only had the place just over 5 months!! A good watering system?  Errrr... No!  My neighbour will kindly go around with her can while I am not there, but that's about it!  It costs a lot extra to have an outside tap/hose doesn't it?

oleanders cost virtually nothing here - why pay to bring them over?  If you have a good watering system you can do an approximation of an English garden - lavender, roses, delphs, the lot - but you have to get your head round planting earlier.