11255 Faux Pas???

I'm just back from a very very long walk to work off the Christmas pudding. I discovered by chance a new cafe nearby me which specialises in Tuscan food. Cool thought I. I then read the name of the shop and gasped. "Negozio Classica" Eh??? Surely it should be "Negozio Classico??? So I'm left with unanswered questions until it reopens. lol Are the owners Italian and/or is their signage up the swaneee. Please Learned Ones, clarify this for me.

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It's a feminine restaurant - a bit like una canzone classica! :laughs: :laughs: :laughs:

Jokes aside, which are very funny but will further confuse you, Sally, you are right. It should be "Negozio Classico"
The adjective has to agree in gender and number with the noun it qualifies. Negozio is masculine, consequently you use classico.
If they wanted to use a feminine noun and adjective they should have used "Bottega Classica"
Please check with them and report back.

Yeah, go on Sally - check it out with them - I'm sure they will really appreciate that and especially if you suggest they change the name to something like "La bottega rinascimentale".

You can tell them that the new name suggestion stems from all the fabulous artisitc and design knowledge you have.

No I wasn't seeing things in a drunken stupor!!! lol Here's the link to their web site - [url=http://www.negozioclassica.co.uk/]Negozio Classica: bar, lounge and quality store[/url]

I have just sent an e-mail to the handsome but young alas Giuseppe who is the manager. Watch this space.

Si ma....can't see them changing all the china Sally...wonder why they chose to ignore using the correct Italian though?

I've just read a couple of reviews ..... It doesn't sound too promising at all unfortunately.

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NottingHillSue (07-08-2008) •••••

Britney’s review is almost totally identical to my experience. Rude staff, mediocre food and small cramped seating made for a overall bad night out. Having booked a table we arrived to be told that we had actually booked it for an hour later which we certainly did not, it was so obvious that they had given our table to someone else even though we were on time. When my friend asked for a glass of champagne to start the waiter rolled his eyes and said Do you mean Prosecco? Once our food order was taken and our dishes served we sat there for over an hour trying to get some service to no avail so dessertless and coffeeless we left and went across the road to a restaurant call The Wine Bar where the staff actually served us and did not make us feel like we had somehow spoiled their night by simply wanting to eat at their restaurant.

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britney (27-05-2008) •••••

If u are looking for an overpriced glass of wine served by patronising staff this is the place for you…The food is mediocre and the desserts disappointingly are not made in house but are shop bought and sold at 10 times the price as the local bakery (where they are brought from) however this is not where this bar disappoints, the staff are rude and unhlepful. The manager has very little knowledge of food and is rude and dismissive, if u want a chatty waiter with whom to tell your tales of summers spent in florence then this is most certainly not the place to go…. The most disturbing though is being italian myself I could understand what was being said and the staff spent the majority of the evening poking fun at their customers and commenting on their appearances.. The hefty bill was placed on our table without a smile to make room for friends of the staff…. if u do not belong to the negozio classica click then do not spend your good money here….

and a couple of others, one which says nothing special and the other that it has an excellent wine list and will return to try all the wines .....

no surprise that they call themselves negozia classica, as it seems to be par for the course in the UK to open an "Italian" restaurant without having done the basic research. There's one in Reading that gave me untold delight by sporting a large sign in the front window promising that "antipasta" was on the menu.

I think you may be VERY surprised at the answer you will get if you have told them they have made a mistake in calling the place 'Negozio Classica' in your email.

I do hope you will let us all know what they say Sally. :bigergrin:

[quote=gradese;106482]There's one in Reading that gave me untold delight by sporting a large sign in the front window promising that "antipasta" was on the menu.[/quote]

You really must learn to conjugate Gradese :bigergrin:

antipasto
antipasti
antipaste'
antipastiamo.
antipastete
antipastono

:laughs: :laughs: :laughs:

Forget the issue of the name of the place. Do they sell goose fat?

[quote=Ghianda;106490]Forget the issue of the name of the place. Do they sell goose fat?[/quote]

Only from geese who listen to classical music all day.:bigergrin:

There has been an advert on the TV for a record of the group of male singers calling themselves Il Divo....now shouldn't that be I Divi?

I also advise anyone who sees panini advertised to insist on more than one!:laughs::laughs::laughs:

[quote=Nielo;106493]There has been an advert on the TV for a record of the group of male singers calling themselves Il Divo....now shouldn't that be I Divi?

I also advise anyone who sees panini advertised to insist on more than one!:laughs::laughs::laughs:[/quote]

Sadly they're Spanish and created by Simon Cowell! Sto parlando da Il Divo, not sandwiches.

[quote=Ghianda;106494]Sadly they're Spanish and created by Simon Cowell! Sto parlando da Il Divo, not sandwiches.[/quote]

Sorry to contradict you, but they are not Spanish. Only one member, Carlos Marín is a Spanish tenor, the other three are Urs Bühler (Swiss), David Miller (American) and Sébastien Izambard (French). As you rightly said, it was an idea of the British producer Simon Cowell to try to get a new group that would eventually take the place of the Three Tenors. Possibly, Cowell is great at getting the group together, but his Italian is not very good. I agree with Nielo, it should be "I Divi" (plural).:bigergrin:

[quote=Gala Placidia;106498]Sorry to contradict you, but they are not Spanish. Only one member, Carlos Marín is a Spanish tenor, the other three are Urs Bühler (Swiss), David Miller (American) and Sébastien Izambard (French).:bigergrin:[/quote]

Like I said, they were a quarter Spanish!

Perhaps the fact that calling someone a Divvy in English is an insult and means they are an idiot or a fool, might have more to do with it than a lack of Italian.:bigergrin:

Actually this thread has unintentionally thrown up something very interesting.

Take the word "antipasto" - why is it ant[B][I]i[/I][/B]pasto and not "ant[B][I]e[/I][/B]pasto"? :wideeyed:

Moved to : Italiauncovered.co.uk

After five minutes of not very rigorous research, it would seem that the latin "ante" = before and "anti" =against both tend become "anti-" in compound words.

[quote=juliancoll;106517]Actually this thread has unintentionally thrown up something very interesting.

Take the word "antipasto" - why is it ant[B][I]i[/I][/B]pasto and not "ant[B][I]e[/I][/B]pasto"? :wideeyed:[/quote]

You are right there, the prefix should be "ante" :yes:

Check this out - [url=http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=608264]antipasto - WordReference Forums[/url]

I guess there is always 'the exception that proves the rule' that validates 'a little learning is a dangerous thing' - which is kinda what I was saying in the first place. However, the thread on Word Reference indicates that it is of Greek origin.

We're all on the wrong forum! :swoon:

I thought it comes from [I]'antipasti misti' [/I], which describes the various dishes served. So would just one dish of many be an 'antipasto...?'

But juliancoll is probably right - it's one of those exceptions to the rule that are there to confuse us!

[quote=Carole B;106531]

But juliancoll is probably right - it's one of those exceptions to the rule that are there to confuse us![/quote]

Which can easily be summarised as "the Italian language". If it was easy, we wouldn't have been sent here to learn it !:dull:

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Is that post a curve ball Nielo? :laughs: