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We are currently negotiating the sale of property in Tuscany. The prospective buyer is a US citizen and US resident as are we.

Sat, 07/20/2019 - 11:54

Help understanding property listing system.Having a bit of difficulty grasping the Italian real estate for sale listing system, protocols, etc.

Sat, 08/19/2017 - 12:05

“Technical"  question on Notaio function What is the responsibility of a Notaio to ascertain the “validity” of the method of payment at the closing of a real estate sale in Italy?

Fri, 08/11/2017 - 10:47

Am exploring the possibility of exchanging some Italian property for some California property. Anyone have any experience and/or knowledge regarding this process and if this is viable with Italian property.

Tue, 06/06/2017 - 12:40

For any US folks looking to obtain Italian citizenship through the Jure Sanguinis process, the waiting time for an appointment is pretty long.

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 20:27

Our main e-mail address was hacked last week and more than 5,000 e-mails were sent to addresses all over the world. Most of them were returned from invalid e-mail addresses, however some ended up at valid addresses.

Wed, 08/12/2015 - 18:46

On-line property tax info;Does anyone know if there is “public” information available on-line, or anywhere else for that matter, that one can access to determine if a particular property is “current” with property tax payments, (IUC, IMU, Taris, w

Wed, 09/24/2014 - 04:16

Any chicken farmers out there?Would appreciate any info anyone might have regarding faina (marten) attacks on chickens. We lost two earlier this year and another three last night after making a “Fort Knox” of our chicken coop.

Fri, 08/01/2014 - 14:19

Any recommendations for a car repair facility in the general Lunigiana area that can handle various makes of autos?

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 07:28

Anyone have any experience and/or knowledge about trading in a foreign (German) registered and licenced car for an Italian registered and licensed car? Does the car dealer handle all the paperwork etc.

Sat, 04/05/2014 - 14:08

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Thu, 03/26/2020 - 21:07

Obtaining Italian Citizenship via the “Jure Sanguines” procedure

 

We have been residing in Europe part-time since 1974, the last 15 in Italy. As my wife has dual citizenship, US and an EU country, we have not had to deal with the 90 day EU restriction for non-EU citizens. Approximately 10 years ago we decided I should apply for Italian citizenship through the “Jure Sanguines” procedure for various reasons. We located all of the necessary documents, had everything translated, etc., and made application to a US based Italian Consulate. I was interviewed and paid the necessary fees. The Consulate contacted me a few times over several years asking for more documents. We decided at one point to forget it and I stopped responding to the Consulate’s correspondence for several years.

Several months ago I received a registered letter from the Consulate stating that they only needed two more documents to complete the application. One was my grandfather’s “original birth certificate” and the other was for another copy of some other document. Since we had decided to forego ever returning to Italy, I answered thusly; 

 

“Dear ……., you of all people should know that entities do not provide “original birth certificates” as there is only one “original” which is why only copies are provided, which, incidently, I sent to you in 2010. The other document was sent to you in full translation in 2014 for the second time. 

So, why don’t you look someplace where the “sun don’t shine” and you might get lucky and find something.”

 

Two weeks later I received another registered letter from the Consulate congratulating me for being awarded Italian Citizenship along with a form to submit for my Italian EU Passport.

 

What a country!!!

 

Casa del Campanile

Fri, 09/27/2019 - 13:24

Just received my Italian citizenship after 10 years of shuffling papers, etc.
If your Italian immigrant grandfather became a naturalized citizen of the US, my understanding is that you do not qualify for Italian citizenship under the "jus sanguinis principle."
Check out the website for your nearest Italian Consulate ( Miami?) and you can get all the info you need to check your qualifications and information regarding applying if you qualify.
Good luck and be prepared for the paper shuffling experience of your life if you proceed.

Tue, 07/23/2019 - 21:37

Steve, thanks for the input. Could you elaborate a bit as to the process you used and what method/vehicle was used to satisfy the Italian notaio that the funds had been transferred from buyer to seller to the satisfaction/verification/certification of the notaio. Devil is always in the details.
Thanks,
Fred

Tue, 07/23/2019 - 12:47

Thanks guys for your responses.
Probably better to just do it the "Italian way" and avoid all the extra paper shuffling.
The extra cost of two currency exchanges and the transfer costs are a small price to pay to just get it done.
As a former notary in the US, obviously totally different from European notaries, and having written zoning laws as a city planner, am well aware of the "bureaucratic jungle" that exists just about everywhere one encounters human presence and activity. So be it, and thanks again for the input.
Fred

Sun, 07/21/2019 - 18:40

Ugo, thanks again for your input, however, not to belabor the point, but for my own edification, I should like to explore one additional situation.
One of the banks we deal with is the Bank of America (founded as you probably know, by an Italian immigrant, A.P. Giannini) in San Francisco many moons ago) which has a branch office in Milan as well as numerous other branches in numerous other countries, including many EU countries.
If my buyer deposited the full purchase price into our local B of A branch, and our local branch notified the Milan branch that the funds were on deposit, could not then an Italian notaio receive legal verification/certification from the Milan bank that the necessary funds were, in fact, on deposit and available to the seller? It seems to me that if an Italian notaio could legally receive verification/certification of deposit from the Milan bank if the funds were, in fact, deposited into the Milan bank, the notaio could accept the Milan bank's verification/certification that the necessary funds were, in fact, in the possession of the B of A organization and available to the seller. Just askin', you know.

Sat, 07/20/2019 - 13:14

Ugo, thanks for your input.
If I understand your post correctly, an Italian Notaio would not, or could not, accept a verification from any US entity; bank, attorney, escrow company, US notary, whatever, that a specified amount of $$$ has been transferred from one US bank account to another US bank account for the purchase of an Italian property when the buyer has paid to the Italian Notaio, all the fees, taxes, etc. in €s in Italy?

Wed, 09/06/2017 - 05:41

Carolyn, the information provided by Katie and Sean pretty much covers what is necessary to obtain residency in Italy for a non-EU citizen. It may seem daunting at the outset so be prepared for doing some "due diligence" and paper shuffling. Good luck.Fred

Thu, 08/31/2017 - 04:27

As we have answered similar inquiries, we offer this:As a non-EU citizen you are restricted to 90 day stays in the EU unless you get an extension from the Italian Consulate in the US for an additional 90 days. The regulation is that after a 90 day stay in the EU you must leave the EU for a period of at least 90 days before you can return. Past enforcement in various countries has been relatively lax, however, given the increase in terrorism in Europe, would expect a tightening in enforcement. If you plan to have longer stays in Italy you can apply for a form of residency. A number of non-EU folks on this Forum have opted for this process and can give you more precise information.There are several “flight paths” from the US to Pisa via Munich, Paris,  Rome, or London via various carriers. We travel annually from LAX to Pisa via Munich.You might have a look at Fivizzano and environs in Lunigiana. It is 30-40 minutes from the autostrada at Aulla on a well maintained “highway.”  About 1.5 hour drive from Pisa airport. It is a fortress city, historical, good medical facilities including a hospital, etc., a train depot in another village a few miles away, good bus service, a number of restaurants, bars, including Elvetica which hosts the English book library, Oxfam English library and store, active Expat community, small “supermarket,” gas station, a pharmacy, bank, and a number of small shops. An ideal location for someone who wants to be out of the tourist traffic, yet not too far from "civilization."  They also have an extensive market in the square every Tuesday, I think.  There is a wide range of properties; from city apts. to town houses, to detached houses with small land areas just outside town, and some estate type properties with vineyards, boscos, etc. in the general area. Check out properties at Lunigiana2000.comIt is just below the mountain range that has a fairly good ski resort. Not sure of winter snowfall ,in town, if any, or temps. Maybe someone from there might weigh in on that subject.Good luck,Fred 

Answer to: LUNIGIANA 2000
Sun, 08/06/2017 - 12:50

Thanks Steve for your kind words regarding our “bittersweet farewell.” We will have some great memories thanks to all of you. One of the “responsibilities” demanding our attention is the renovation of the “Sand Castle” in the mountains above the desert which was owned by an actor, Denny Miller, who played Tarzan in the1959 movie “Tarzan."He was also a featured actor in the old TV western series “Wagon Train.” And, for the US sports fans, he played basketball at UCLA under John Wooden before he was “discovered” by a Hollywood agent. Interesting house and a “fun” project." Fred

Answer to: LUNIGIANA 2000
Sun, 08/06/2017 - 04:31

As our responsibilities back in the US have reached a point where we can no longer spend 6 months a year here, we reluctantly have placed our Varano property on the market. The bitter part is leaving behind all the friends and acquaintances we have enjoyed over the past 11 years.The sweet part is all the memories we have from our "Italian Adventure," in part thanks to this forum. The information available here is invaluable to anyone considering an “Italian Adventure.”We would like to thank all who have contributed to this forum as much of it has been helpful.Thanks again and best wishes to all for as great an "Italian Adventure" as we have enjoyed.Ciao for now,Marianne and Fred BernadottiCasa del CampanileIf anyone is interested, the property is listed with Lunigiana 2000.http://www.lunigiana2000.com/indeu.php?lang=ita      #602