What is wrong with this community forum? It used to be so good, now it is difficult to navigate, posts from as far back as 2009 head the top of the page and there are a heap of spam-like posts that are just downright annoying! Can we go back to
I recently purchased a small flat in an Umbrian town but I can tell you that it has taken me years to get to this point. I started researching years ago and came across exactly the same situation as yourself. I would fire off email after email i
Hello, I just recently bought a little apartment in the historical centre of a little hilltop town in the province of Perugia. We need to do some renovations on it but before we start we need to clean up the mess that was left behind. The previo
URGENT ADVICE REQUIRED: I am in Umbria at this very moment and was in the process of buying a small apartment here.
Could someone please tell me what the situation is for payment of IMU TASI and TARI on a historical property purchased as a second home? Thank you
Hello, I am considering buying a house in Umbria that needs restoration. It looks in relatively good nick but is not habitable according the the real estate. Do I need a certificate of habitation before I can start using the property.
Hello, I am a non EU non resident wishing to purchase a property in Umbria. Could someone please explain the new anti-seismic bonus that the Tax Office is offering on first and second homes? Does it apply to non-residents? How does the bonus wo
Maybe the real estate agent got it wrong or wanted to convince me that the rates were very reasonable for the property as I was quite anxious about how much they would cost. It would be nice to think that the woman at the comune was incorrect and that I would be able t o pay less but I feel that she does these calculations every day and so is probably right.
Calculating the council rates is quite complicated. I had been told by my real estate agent, who went on to the website that calculates the rates and told me that I would be up for Euro 220 pa for my property. When I went to the comune (council) to speak to the dept which handles rates she calculated it for me and it turned out to be twice that. Being married it is paid by both spouses. We were due to pay Euro 220 each but because I am in the process of renovating my place and it does not have water and is being renovated, they consider that to be non abitabile and so we were given a 50% discount on that amount.
It is difficult to say what I will pay for electricity because although I have had the electricity connected, I have not used any electricity. As a secondo casa (foreign owned houses where the owner is not a resident are classed as owning a second house) you pay more for your access fee (I think it is around Euro 23 per month as opposed to a resident who pays about Euro 11 per month) and then I think the usage might be more expensive as well. Electricity is expensive in Italy.
I elected to have everything electric including my stove and oven because I couldn't be bothered also paying a monthly access fee for the gas.
You also need to pay water (which I haven't had connected yet) and rubbish collection which I was told was about Euro 145 per year.
Be careful that you check with the notaio if you are paying a reasonable price for your house. I paid only Euro 9500 for my house, which on the cadastal value is valued at Euro 36000. The tax department will come after you a number of years later if they think that you have dodged any taxes by paying a very low price. I paid Euro 750 for a geometra to go through my house and do an inspection report which included numerous photos to demonstrate that the state of the house was such that it was only worth the price I paid. This report also allowed me to demonstrate to the council that the house was not liveable and so gaining that 50% rates discount. So I had to pay money to gain money because I also paid less taxes when I purchased the house.
I think Ugo is right, now is the time, but you never know with the Italians!
This is completely do-able as far as buying a house at that price. You must realise that Italy has been in a recession on and off for the longest time and old places in small villages are not really much sort after by younger Italians who mostly want to move to bigger towns and cities and then they usually want something new with all the modern conveniences.
This house looks big, habitable and in sound condition. I would have the roof checked out and have the plumbing and electricity checked out but otherwise, it almost looks like you could move in as soon as buying it.
I recently bought a 60sqm apartment, about 200 years old, but in fair condition in the historic centre of a town in Umbria, about 30 mins drive from both Perugia and Assisi. The town is a delight and I just love my little place. I paid Euro 9500.
The bathroom was functioning but super super small, so I decided to have it knocked down and rebuilt from scratch. So far, with other renovations, I have spent about Euro 9000. I am finding the trades and materials to be very reasonable compared to Australia.
More complicated would be organising your visa, buying the house and then knowing what and who to pay for things like utilities.
Yes, I agree with you on all the points you made. It is a shame that they do not value the community forum more than they do, and look after it, because it surely creates and stimulates revenue for them and provides them with information and marketing opportunities. A healthy community forum protected from the rubbish that has been creeping into the posts for a while is surely worth looking after?
YES YOU CAN!! I am an Australian citizen and resident and I recently purchased an apartment in a small town in Umbria.I was initially informed by the first notaio when we went to finalise the purchase, that we were not allowed to purchase in Italy, but on doing further research and on ringing another notaio, we were told that we could purchase a place and so eight months ago we became the proud owners of our own little place in Italy. I would suggest you find a notatio that is familiar with this situation.
Why would you want to put yourself in so much trouble for a place that is not even considered a dwelling? If €9000 is all you can afford there are still a few places around for about that price and a bit above that need renovating but are actual dwellings . Look on idealista.it.
I'm sorry but what is your actual situation in Italy? Have you recently moved there? Are you by yourself? Are you a student? How long do you wish to live in Italy? Would it not be less complicated to just rent a place for the time that you are there? When I said that you should take a friend with you to the agency I meant a personal friend, a friend that I thought you might already have. I didn't mean that you should make friends so that you can talk business. If you were to clarify your situation this might make it easier for someone in the forum to give you the correct advice for your situation.
I totally get your frustration because I too came across this situation multiple times when I was in the quest to buy a place. Forget trying to communicate via email unless you get someone to do it for you in Italian. The same with going into an agency. Make sure you are accompanied by a friend who speaks fluent Italian. Approach the agency with a specific property or properties that you wish to see. If they let you get past this first step, have your friend communicate the facts and that you are desperate to get a property which your relatives will be purchasing and that you will be living in. Once they understand the situation and that you (or your relatives) are serious in looking and buying a place, this might change the situation. If they are still not interested it is probably because they are not used to dealing with foreigners and look upon the whole selling to non-Italians as too difficult a process.