Your best chance would be to find someone on one of the forums who would like a break from a holiday home, but that time of year might be difficult. Perhaps a post on an Abruzzo forum may come up with something.
Hi Jeanie, yes sorry for the jokes when you need advice! Don't know anything about removal people, but we thought having such was essential, however we ended up not needing a removal company. Your situation is very different I guess as we were coming from the UK, but keeping a house there. Anyway I'm sure some of the logic will still apply and we found that many a treasured item would just not fit in with Italy or that it was cheaper in the long run to simply buy new items. Worth thinking about as you may find you don't have quite as much to move.
"I've just finished reading an economic commentary and there is clear concern about the stability of the Italian banks." Good to see you have found a good way to get to sleep
I agree with Ronco we looked around at Ikea, Mondo and others, then someone pointed out this tiny little shop that we did not even know existed. Went to see them and told them what we liked in the way of type, colour etc and what price it was. They came up with almost the exact same, but a lot cheaper AND it included delivery and installation at no extra cost. The guy came up with a plumber and electrician, we still use the local plumber he brought now...
A very valid point by Gala, but I believe you would get government help, albeit takes time. Additionally landslide is just as big a risk, however both are prevalent around the whole of Italy. This site I believe gives a little more detail on earthquakes from which you will see Abruzzo, apart from L'Aquila which I mentioned, comes out okay. Getting such on landslides would be useless as they are so common, but often on a small scale, although there have been one or two notorious tragic events on a massive scale. I'm sure you will of course be aware of such risks being present all over the world.
Hi LizBeing an EU citizen does not let you stay in Italy for 5 years, unfortunately it's only 3 months. On the bright side, if you satisfy the requirements, then there is no reason at all why you can't get residency. I can't see why the comune would say you have to get Italian citizenship. Then again at times some of these people are a law unto themselves... Regards the car, yes there are many posts on it, but it's hard to know just how right some of the information is officially. As someone once said, I can't imagine any Italian driving to the UK and being allowed to travel around without paying road tax, getting an MOT and/or getting insurance. I'd be surprised if any country is a lot different.
Mondo do sell online, just put in the basket next to the item. I read the OP was looking for the sofa not the cover? In anycase I'm sure they will sell them, but Ikea and/or elsewhere online (Amazon) may well be cheaper/ more choice.
Hi JamesVV is based in Chieti, and yes there are lots of places up for sale at a very low price, especially in that region. If you look at like for like (as near as you can) you will likely find (not looked for a while) that prices are lower in Chieti than Pescara and Teramo and parts of L’Aquila. The latter is still suffering from the relatively recent big earthquake. I’m sure it has not changed since I looked at the market and the conclusion I came to when looking at 100’s of houses here, that there is always a reason something is so cheap. There are many reasons in Abruzzo, some obvious, others not. Unemployment, both current and historical are notorious in this area, which I have to say seemed like going back in time when we first visited it. Although we have never travelled further south in Italy than Abruzzo, we have been to a number of places around the north of the country. Each of these places was very different in lots of respects, but none had the impact of our first look at Abruzzo, it looked like it had stopped in time around the 60’s. In subsequent trips, which we made as we quickly found the first impression was not as we thought, we found its charm (for us). After visiting Tuscany many a time, we would now never think of buying there. Not that we no longer like the place, especially the north, but for us it lacks the real feel of this place.Getting back to other reasons, it’s a small region with few people and seen as “backward” to the youth and they simply want to leave. A bit like a lot of small villages everywhere in Italy, but on a larger scale. Then you have these rural buildings that are likely second family homes, away from the city and/or motorway and therefore jobs and schools. You are right that agriculture is/was dying, but in the recent downturn has had something of a revival. Unfortunately I think this will be short lived if things improve financially. Many of these rural properties are being bought by English, Dutch, Russian and other nationalities, but there are even more coming on the market as the parent of the youth can’t work the land without their kids. Gala’s warning I’m sure is not needed by you as you seem to be well aware of most things and much more experienced than many of us here. We were aware of the risk before we bought or even started looking for a house. We kind of decided we could afford to buy knowing we may never be able to sell the place or at least get back a fraction of what we put in… I’m not convinced we really believed that mind you! However we do know of one person that has sold 2 houses here in as many years and actually made a small profit on each. Saying that we also know of at least three others still trying to sell, one two years along the line. Would we do it again, probably, although we would more seriously look at renting long term. In any case we would still have rented before we bought, which is what we did for 6 month.
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Your best chance would be to find someone on one of the forums who would like a break from a holiday home, but that time of year might be difficult. Perhaps a post on an Abruzzo forum may come up with something.
Hi Jeanie, yes sorry for the jokes when you need advice! Don't know anything about removal people, but we thought having such was essential, however we ended up not needing a removal company. Your situation is very different I guess as we were coming from the UK, but keeping a house there. Anyway I'm sure some of the logic will still apply and we found that many a treasured item would just not fit in with Italy or that it was cheaper in the long run to simply buy new items. Worth thinking about as you may find you don't have quite as much to move.
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"I've just finished reading an economic commentary and there is clear concern about the stability of the Italian banks." Good to see you have found a good way to get to sleep
I agree with Ronco we looked around at Ikea, Mondo and others, then someone pointed out this tiny little shop that we did not even know existed. Went to see them and told them what we liked in the way of type, colour etc and what price it was. They came up with almost the exact same, but a lot cheaper AND it included delivery and installation at no extra cost. The guy came up with a plumber and electrician, we still use the local plumber he brought now...
A very valid point by Gala, but I believe you would get government help, albeit takes time. Additionally landslide is just as big a risk, however both are prevalent around the whole of Italy. This site I believe gives a little more detail on earthquakes from which you will see Abruzzo, apart from L'Aquila which I mentioned, comes out okay. Getting such on landslides would be useless as they are so common, but often on a small scale, although there have been one or two notorious tragic events on a massive scale. I'm sure you will of course be aware of such risks being present all over the world.
Hi LizBeing an EU citizen does not let you stay in Italy for 5 years, unfortunately it's only 3 months. On the bright side, if you satisfy the requirements, then there is no reason at all why you can't get residency. I can't see why the comune would say you have to get Italian citizenship. Then again at times some of these people are a law unto themselves... Regards the car, yes there are many posts on it, but it's hard to know just how right some of the information is officially. As someone once said, I can't imagine any Italian driving to the UK and being allowed to travel around without paying road tax, getting an MOT and/or getting insurance. I'd be surprised if any country is a lot different.
Mondo do sell online, just put in the basket next to the item. I read the OP was looking for the sofa not the cover? In anycase I'm sure they will sell them, but Ikea and/or elsewhere online (Amazon) may well be cheaper/ more choice.
... or Mondo here in Perugia.
Hi JamesVV is based in Chieti, and yes there are lots of places up for sale at a very low price, especially in that region. If you look at like for like (as near as you can) you will likely find (not looked for a while) that prices are lower in Chieti than Pescara and Teramo and parts of L’Aquila. The latter is still suffering from the relatively recent big earthquake. I’m sure it has not changed since I looked at the market and the conclusion I came to when looking at 100’s of houses here, that there is always a reason something is so cheap. There are many reasons in Abruzzo, some obvious, others not. Unemployment, both current and historical are notorious in this area, which I have to say seemed like going back in time when we first visited it. Although we have never travelled further south in Italy than Abruzzo, we have been to a number of places around the north of the country. Each of these places was very different in lots of respects, but none had the impact of our first look at Abruzzo, it looked like it had stopped in time around the 60’s. In subsequent trips, which we made as we quickly found the first impression was not as we thought, we found its charm (for us). After visiting Tuscany many a time, we would now never think of buying there. Not that we no longer like the place, especially the north, but for us it lacks the real feel of this place.Getting back to other reasons, it’s a small region with few people and seen as “backward” to the youth and they simply want to leave. A bit like a lot of small villages everywhere in Italy, but on a larger scale. Then you have these rural buildings that are likely second family homes, away from the city and/or motorway and therefore jobs and schools. You are right that agriculture is/was dying, but in the recent downturn has had something of a revival. Unfortunately I think this will be short lived if things improve financially. Many of these rural properties are being bought by English, Dutch, Russian and other nationalities, but there are even more coming on the market as the parent of the youth can’t work the land without their kids. Gala’s warning I’m sure is not needed by you as you seem to be well aware of most things and much more experienced than many of us here. We were aware of the risk before we bought or even started looking for a house. We kind of decided we could afford to buy knowing we may never be able to sell the place or at least get back a fraction of what we put in… I’m not convinced we really believed that mind you! However we do know of one person that has sold 2 houses here in as many years and actually made a small profit on each. Saying that we also know of at least three others still trying to sell, one two years along the line. Would we do it again, probably, although we would more seriously look at renting long term. In any case we would still have rented before we bought, which is what we did for 6 month.