But of course it's probably too late for your case.Individuazione aree non idonee all’installazione di impianti fotovoltaici.Con deliberazione di Consiglio Comunale n. 67 del 22/12/2010, è stata approvata la cartografia redatta per l’individuazione delle aree non idonee all’installazione di impianti fotovoltaici con moduli al suolo di cui alla L.R. 13/2010.Gli elaborati sono consultabili presso l’Ufficio Tecnico Comunale.
I think that he has done a good thing for himself. Ok, 32000 euro for a 4,6 kWp array is 6900 euro/kWp, which is rather high, prices are now down to 4000 euro/kWp without vat, which is 10% for pv-installations to be added on top. But Sagraiasolar also pays for the advantage of not having to put down his money up front. Leasing (with the only security for the loan in the pv-array) is normally more expensive than taking up a loan on your house and payback will extend to 15 years. As always, who has got money to spare makes the best deal as opposed to who has nothing. And to answer Capo Boi, you do not really want to over-dimension your PV-array, since you get paid 0,095 euro/kwh for your energy sale (end of year balance) while the produced energy, if you consume 100% yourself, has a buyers' value to you as it is calculated against your electricity bill, around 0,22 euro/kWh. I sit here with an xls of a typical 30 year simulation (bank loan interest rate of 4,8 % running over 10 years for an array of 6 kWp costing 26500 euro incl. vat) and would upload it for info - if I could...
..as the regional laws are above the local technical planning office. We had the same problem with the Comune the Montebello for the authorisation of a 1MW site, the mayor was not pleased because my husband's company was the 3rd asking for authorisation, and he of course didn't want PV-plants all over. But the comune is only asked to give a sanitary opinion through the ASL, and they're bound to approve on that one. The only way for the comune to stop it is to change the destination of use for the land in their "piano regolatore" as you are only allowed to construct on non-vincolated agricultural land. The region has autonomy to decide what authorisation procedures are to be followed and make life hard for investors, and some regions probably will start doing this when energy targets start to be met and the various comuni/population start complaining hard enough. Your concern is valid, but I doubt that an already given authorisation can be revoked. Normally (at least here in Abruzzo) a project has to be published in the BURA for 60 days (I think) to get people a chance to oppose. Then the project will go through the regional approval procedure "Conferenza dei servizi" where all implied agencies and public institutions are heard (together with eventual objections from the public). So in principle there has been plenty of time to stop it...also for the comune implied. In Germany part of the taxes on the generated electricity goes to the comune, so they're quite happy to have this extra income..in Italy I don't know how this part of it works. However, the government incentives for large land installations are being lowered drastically in the new year, in order to make these large plants less attractive as an investment. Small private roof-installations will still give a decent return, as the incentive only decrease by 6%.
the area around Reggio Emilia is considered one of the best for quality of living (read that somewhere in an italian newspaper), but areas around Milano are also to be considered (Varese to the North, Liguria to the South, but they probably suffer a bit more from higher prices on the property market. Italians around Milan have no problem commuting 60 km to work every day. You may avoid that moving further down towards Reggio Emilia. In any case, if you need to work, you should definitely stay in Northern Italy, which stops at the river Tronto in Le Marche....so I was told by a fellow Abruzzese who worked in Le Marche :-) Abruzzo and further south, the only way forward is self-employment, but here you'll have to consider a very slow startup phase. God luck
Hi Atessa, Just to clear this one: If you install 9 panels of 230 Wp each, you'll have a PV-array of 2,07 kWp. The solar irradiation in Central Italy, allows an annual energy production of approx. 1350 kWh/kWp, so your PV-array would expect to produce 2800 kWh, which is more or less what your geometra has told you. Only problem is that these are figures for an optimal angolation/azimuth and your roof is facing East, not South (don't know the inclination of it), so you should expect a rough 15% reduction according to the figure here: http://www.icaro-srl.eu/prodotti/immagini/fotovoltaico/BASE_clip_image00... I post a link to the European simulator, so that you can play around with different scenarios yourself: http://re.jrc.ec.europa.eu/pvgis/apps4/pvest.php?lang=it&map=europe Rgds
I can only speak for Photovoltaics, since our studio project small and large arrays here in Abruzzo. You aready have received a lot of advice, and of course I'm biased to thinking it's a very good idea as we have 2 arrays installed here at our house in Loreto, a small array of 10 kWp created to cover our house consumption using the net-metering option (zero electricity bills + annual payment of the difference between produced-consumed) that went into production in 2009, and a large array of 45 kWp, generating approx. 55000 kWh/year that went into production in 2006 where all the produced electricity is sold to the grid at approx. 0.095 euro/kWh and on top of that receiving an incentive on the production of 0,47 euro/kWh. But the installation did cost above 200.000 euro five years ago. We borrowed the money and the incentives are paying for the loan on a separate bank account. The incentives will run for 20 years while we assume the loan will be paid out in 8-9. I am positive about geothermal, solar heating etc. as well, but my husband is italian and these technologies were not immediate to him at time of restoration 10 years ago, and have therefore never been considered for our house. The same is valid for the (to Northeners) obvious choice of increased insulation. I think it will take years to change people's mentality in this regard. Generally it is correct that you only see few PV-arrays here in Abruzzo, just go to Le Marche and it seems that you're in South of Germany. It is all a matter of diffidence in the government, lack of money, and especially a general lack of informative advice etc. but things ARE changing and the since July my husband is working 7 days a week (and nights as well) following up on various installations. The abruzzese have been sleeping for 3 years and now, in the 11th hour, they all want everything at once. And they are right because there's going to be a 6% reduction of the incentive rate for installations done in 2011. You can still make it at the 2010-rates, but you really need to make up your mind rather quickly You must also remember that Germany initiated their incentivation programme 10 years before Italy, so there's still some serious catching up to do. In fact Spanish and German operators are all eager to work here in Italy as it currently has the best incentive scheme in Europe. But on your small scale, remember that NOTHING is completely free. YOU have to finance the installation, prices range from 4-5000 euro/kWp installed, so if you need 5 kWp you'll have to cough up max. 25000 euro. Most banks do finance this through loans, but the deal depends on the security you're able to give. However it's true that the loan will pay for itself through the incentives. Whether it will be in 8,9, 10 or 12 years, I cannot say, but you still earn 8 years of incentives paid out by the GSE. Consider it a long-term investment giving your contribution to the environment To Moruzzo: It is indifferent whether the house is a holiday home or a permanent residence, as long as it is located on Italian Territory. You need to have an enel counter and the incentive will be paid out to the owner of this grid point. As for the "scambio sul posto" ie. the net-metering option, your array may be in surplus at the end of the year (your production is higher than your consumption), since your house is not abitated full time. However, now there is the option to have this positive difference paid back on an annual basis. Before they just gave you an "electricity credit" to consume during the following years. Panels have standard sizes of approx. 1 x 1,6 meters, so you can check yourself, how many you may be able to fit in on your roof. Standard power is 230 Wp so you'll need approx. 22 panels for 5 kWp, which here in Abruzzo would produce 1350 kWh/year for every kWp installed, 29000 kWh/year in total. Of course if these panels are oriented towards SOUTH and have a good inclination of 20 degrees or above, otherwise the expected production needs to be scaled down. Now, I could go on for hours about technical details and calculations, but it would be outside the scope of this forum. I'm happy to give production predictions to specific cases in private, these are based on location of the house, inclination and orientation of the roof. As for the incentives, as I've said in other posts, the ONE AND ONLY reference guide to the incentivation scheme is the GSE website: http://www.gse.it/Pagine/default.aspx - Read that before anything else! ciao
in Montefiore dell'Aso last year, translating for them. They used a Notary called Sergio Lenhardy in Grottammare. You can find a list of notaries here: http://www.notariato.it/ This website also has an english version explaining costs etc. for various deeds, may be useful. Good luck
Bunterboy, I think we might have had this question before. A1 is the accumulated consumption in the time intervals F1, A2 is the accumulated consumption in the time intervals F2 and A3 is the accumulated consumption in the time intervals F3 where: F1 (ore di punta/peak hours) = Lunedi - Venerdi ore 08:00-19:00 F2 (ore intermedie/mid level) = Lunedi - Venerdi 07:00-08:00 e 19:00-23:00 e Sabato 07:00-23:00 F3 (ore fuori punta/off-peak) = Lunedi - Venerdi ore 23:00-07:00, Sabato 23:00-24:00, le Domeniche ed i Festivi Simply do A1+A2+A3 to get your total consumption. "Lettura periodo precedente" should be the consumption during the previous month. See if this makes sense to you and your bill :-) And just because you have 3 time intervals it doesn't necessarily mean that the tariff changes during the day. That depends on your type of contract.
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But of course it's probably too late for your case.Individuazione aree non idonee all’installazione di impianti fotovoltaici.Con deliberazione di Consiglio Comunale n. 67 del 22/12/2010, è stata approvata la cartografia redatta per l’individuazione delle aree non idonee all’installazione di impianti fotovoltaici con moduli al suolo di cui alla L.R. 13/2010.Gli elaborati sono consultabili presso l’Ufficio Tecnico Comunale.
I think that he has done a good thing for himself. Ok, 32000 euro for a 4,6 kWp array is 6900 euro/kWp, which is rather high, prices are now down to 4000 euro/kWp without vat, which is 10% for pv-installations to be added on top. But Sagraiasolar also pays for the advantage of not having to put down his money up front. Leasing (with the only security for the loan in the pv-array) is normally more expensive than taking up a loan on your house and payback will extend to 15 years. As always, who has got money to spare makes the best deal as opposed to who has nothing. And to answer Capo Boi, you do not really want to over-dimension your PV-array, since you get paid 0,095 euro/kwh for your energy sale (end of year balance) while the produced energy, if you consume 100% yourself, has a buyers' value to you as it is calculated against your electricity bill, around 0,22 euro/kWh. I sit here with an xls of a typical 30 year simulation (bank loan interest rate of 4,8 % running over 10 years for an array of 6 kWp costing 26500 euro incl. vat) and would upload it for info - if I could...
To reply to Badgers original question, you may have a look at this link: http://www.regione.marche.it/Home/Struttureorganizzative/AmbienteePaesaggio/AutorizzazioneIntegrataAmbientale/tabid/882/ctl/master_results/mid/3949/Provincia/-1/Settore/17/Istat/-1/Tipo/1/Default.aspx which lists the authorisation processes registered with the region VIA = Valutazione Impatto Ambientale I don't find Amandola in the list, so perhaps you should look at the BUR (Bulletino Ufficiale Regione Marche) but I don't find a decent search function.. http://www.regione.marche.it/Default.aspx?tabid=285
..as the regional laws are above the local technical planning office. We had the same problem with the Comune the Montebello for the authorisation of a 1MW site, the mayor was not pleased because my husband's company was the 3rd asking for authorisation, and he of course didn't want PV-plants all over. But the comune is only asked to give a sanitary opinion through the ASL, and they're bound to approve on that one. The only way for the comune to stop it is to change the destination of use for the land in their "piano regolatore" as you are only allowed to construct on non-vincolated agricultural land. The region has autonomy to decide what authorisation procedures are to be followed and make life hard for investors, and some regions probably will start doing this when energy targets start to be met and the various comuni/population start complaining hard enough. Your concern is valid, but I doubt that an already given authorisation can be revoked. Normally (at least here in Abruzzo) a project has to be published in the BURA for 60 days (I think) to get people a chance to oppose. Then the project will go through the regional approval procedure "Conferenza dei servizi" where all implied agencies and public institutions are heard (together with eventual objections from the public). So in principle there has been plenty of time to stop it...also for the comune implied. In Germany part of the taxes on the generated electricity goes to the comune, so they're quite happy to have this extra income..in Italy I don't know how this part of it works. However, the government incentives for large land installations are being lowered drastically in the new year, in order to make these large plants less attractive as an investment. Small private roof-installations will still give a decent return, as the incentive only decrease by 6%.
the area around Reggio Emilia is considered one of the best for quality of living (read that somewhere in an italian newspaper), but areas around Milano are also to be considered (Varese to the North, Liguria to the South, but they probably suffer a bit more from higher prices on the property market. Italians around Milan have no problem commuting 60 km to work every day. You may avoid that moving further down towards Reggio Emilia. In any case, if you need to work, you should definitely stay in Northern Italy, which stops at the river Tronto in Le Marche....so I was told by a fellow Abruzzese who worked in Le Marche :-) Abruzzo and further south, the only way forward is self-employment, but here you'll have to consider a very slow startup phase. God luck
Hi Atessa, Just to clear this one: If you install 9 panels of 230 Wp each, you'll have a PV-array of 2,07 kWp. The solar irradiation in Central Italy, allows an annual energy production of approx. 1350 kWh/kWp, so your PV-array would expect to produce 2800 kWh, which is more or less what your geometra has told you. Only problem is that these are figures for an optimal angolation/azimuth and your roof is facing East, not South (don't know the inclination of it), so you should expect a rough 15% reduction according to the figure here: http://www.icaro-srl.eu/prodotti/immagini/fotovoltaico/BASE_clip_image00... I post a link to the European simulator, so that you can play around with different scenarios yourself: http://re.jrc.ec.europa.eu/pvgis/apps4/pvest.php?lang=it&map=europe Rgds
I can only speak for Photovoltaics, since our studio project small and large arrays here in Abruzzo. You aready have received a lot of advice, and of course I'm biased to thinking it's a very good idea as we have 2 arrays installed here at our house in Loreto, a small array of 10 kWp created to cover our house consumption using the net-metering option (zero electricity bills + annual payment of the difference between produced-consumed) that went into production in 2009, and a large array of 45 kWp, generating approx. 55000 kWh/year that went into production in 2006 where all the produced electricity is sold to the grid at approx. 0.095 euro/kWh and on top of that receiving an incentive on the production of 0,47 euro/kWh. But the installation did cost above 200.000 euro five years ago. We borrowed the money and the incentives are paying for the loan on a separate bank account. The incentives will run for 20 years while we assume the loan will be paid out in 8-9. I am positive about geothermal, solar heating etc. as well, but my husband is italian and these technologies were not immediate to him at time of restoration 10 years ago, and have therefore never been considered for our house. The same is valid for the (to Northeners) obvious choice of increased insulation. I think it will take years to change people's mentality in this regard. Generally it is correct that you only see few PV-arrays here in Abruzzo, just go to Le Marche and it seems that you're in South of Germany. It is all a matter of diffidence in the government, lack of money, and especially a general lack of informative advice etc. but things ARE changing and the since July my husband is working 7 days a week (and nights as well) following up on various installations. The abruzzese have been sleeping for 3 years and now, in the 11th hour, they all want everything at once. And they are right because there's going to be a 6% reduction of the incentive rate for installations done in 2011. You can still make it at the 2010-rates, but you really need to make up your mind rather quickly
You must also remember that Germany initiated their incentivation programme 10 years before Italy, so there's still some serious catching up to do. In fact Spanish and German operators are all eager to work here in Italy as it currently has the best incentive scheme in Europe. But on your small scale, remember that NOTHING is completely free. YOU have to finance the installation, prices range from 4-5000 euro/kWp installed, so if you need 5 kWp you'll have to cough up max. 25000 euro. Most banks do finance this through loans, but the deal depends on the security you're able to give. However it's true that the loan will pay for itself through the incentives. Whether it will be in 8,9, 10 or 12 years, I cannot say, but you still earn 8 years of incentives paid out by the GSE. Consider it a long-term investment giving your contribution to the environment 
To Moruzzo: It is indifferent whether the house is a holiday home or a permanent residence, as long as it is located on Italian Territory. You need to have an enel counter and the incentive will be paid out to the owner of this grid point. As for the "scambio sul posto" ie. the net-metering option, your array may be in surplus at the end of the year (your production is higher than your consumption), since your house is not abitated full time. However, now there is the option to have this positive difference paid back on an annual basis. Before they just gave you an "electricity credit" to consume during the following years. Panels have standard sizes of approx. 1 x 1,6 meters, so you can check yourself, how many you may be able to fit in on your roof. Standard power is 230 Wp so you'll need approx. 22 panels for 5 kWp, which here in Abruzzo would produce 1350 kWh/year for every kWp installed, 29000 kWh/year in total. Of course if these panels are oriented towards SOUTH and have a good inclination of 20 degrees or above, otherwise the expected production needs to be scaled down. Now, I could go on for hours about technical details and calculations, but it would be outside the scope of this forum. I'm happy to give production predictions to specific cases in private, these are based on location of the house, inclination and orientation of the roof. As for the incentives, as I've said in other posts, the ONE AND ONLY reference guide to the incentivation scheme is the GSE website: http://www.gse.it/Pagine/default.aspx - Read that before anything else! ciao
in Montefiore dell'Aso last year, translating for them. They used a Notary called Sergio Lenhardy in Grottammare. You can find a list of notaries here: http://www.notariato.it/ This website also has an english version explaining costs etc. for various deeds, may be useful. Good luck
Bunterboy, I think we might have had this question before. A1 is the accumulated consumption in the time intervals F1, A2 is the accumulated consumption in the time intervals F2 and A3 is the accumulated consumption in the time intervals F3 where: F1 (ore di punta/peak hours) = Lunedi - Venerdi ore 08:00-19:00 F2 (ore intermedie/mid level) = Lunedi - Venerdi 07:00-08:00 e 19:00-23:00 e Sabato 07:00-23:00 F3 (ore fuori punta/off-peak) = Lunedi - Venerdi ore 23:00-07:00, Sabato 23:00-24:00, le Domeniche ed i Festivi Simply do A1+A2+A3 to get your total consumption. "Lettura periodo precedente" should be the consumption during the previous month. See if this makes sense to you and your bill :-) And just because you have 3 time intervals it doesn't necessarily mean that the tariff changes during the day. That depends on your type of contract.
Seems an awful little to go from, but perhaps you can check out these sites: http://www.radiomarconi.com/marconi/prigionieri.html http://italies.revues.org/1847 They both contain useful links to books etc. about the subject. Good luck!