Sorry think it is 'UGO'. My phone auto corrected because I have friend called Hugo.
Rads should be OK, may need different valves depending on what pipework they use, but plumbers in Italy prefer to plumb in all on one side (low and high) rather than either side (ie low, low). So best to speak to the tradesman prior to commiting to bringing them over, but assume would be OK.
Good Luck. If you need further assistance send me an email on italyprogetti@gmail.com.
The below is based on my experiences in the south, assuming its the same up your way.
Yes 22k seems high. But without knowing all the details can't be certain what they've quoted on. If you are engaging a builder then there are all the beurocratic elements added in.
I would advise against bringing the pipework from UK. You will just end up having compatability issues. Your local builders merchants will stock all you need so go down and have a look. In Italy Plumbers tend to use manifolds to avoid doing any T's or soldering. Its a much better system and avoids unseen risks. So for the rads on 2 floors they would 'probably use 2 manifolds. 1 on each floor. Therefore main hot and cold go to manifold then branch out to each rad. Same for bathroom -main pipes go to manifold, then from manifold distribute to bidet, basin, W.C, shower, bath etc. In future if you have a problem with any of the fittings you just go to manifold and shut off the individual fitting. The copper and PEX comes in rolls and is quite flexible.
Electrics- where in UK your 2 and 3 core cabling runs all back to the main board, In italy they tend to use single core cable instead which run from various junction boxes (a bit like the manifold scenario). Therefore before any cables are run they will install conduit of various size throughout all linked back to the junction boxes and then later on feed through the single core cables into the conduit. Switching, sockets etc are much different to UK. ENEL will give you 3KW. You can pay extra if you want more. Eg. If you wanted to run a washing load and do some hoovering with your UK dyson forget it. The power will trip.
I would love to help you but I'm at the other end of Italy, so as HUGO has suggested please engage a Geometra and get works completed officially and through the correct channels. They are much more vigilant in Italy with building work and if you step out of line they will come down on you ' hard'.
I've been doing my place up for last 5 years and it has been a rollercoaster ride. I spent almost 20 years in UK in construction, so I can make direct comparisons.
Its been worth it for me and hope you settle in and enjoy it as well!
Hi bosco bosco,'presa di aria per caldaia a gas'Im not sure about 'NEW' legislation but it is definately needed. In most countries you will find that it is required.In my town a family had there boiler on a balcony. Over the years they decided to enclose the balcony and use it as a utility room. On enclosing it they did not consider any ventilation. There was a gas leak on the balcony (through boiler)and because it did not have anywhere to escape(through a vent) it drifted into the kitchen where they had their fireplace. As soon as it caught a flame it exploded. The entire enclosure blew off!Gas is dangerous, so hopefully you will see the reasoning whether it is new legislation or not?
Hi Elizabeth,I think I misread your post.There is a website called 'homestay', which may be close to what your looking for. Or 'workaway' website where you live on a site and help out with day to day duties- you can choose the region and all the hosts will have their ads postedSorry for the misread
Hi Elizabeth,Welcome.Each region of Italy has different regulations for B&Bs.(max number of rooms, the compulsory bidet, etc etc,), there are also other forms such as 'agriturismo' or 'affittacamera'.Depending on your budget, I think you will find plenty of establishments already set up and for sale. If your thinking of starting fresh, you will have a lot of work ahead of you and it will be challenging (some people love a challenge)Although born in ItaIy I lived most of my early years in Australia, then went to the UK and now hopefully back to Italy (back to the roots as they say). I was hoping to set up a B&B as well but the beuracracy is pushing me away from it, but not totally out of the questionWe are in Basilicata, one of the least known and untouched(tourism) areas of Italy. If your down south get in contact.All the best
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Hi Alex,
Sorry think it is 'UGO'. My phone auto corrected because I have friend called Hugo.
Rads should be OK, may need different valves depending on what pipework they use, but plumbers in Italy prefer to plumb in all on one side (low and high) rather than either side (ie low, low). So best to speak to the tradesman prior to commiting to bringing them over, but assume would be OK.
Good Luck. If you need further assistance send me an email on italyprogetti@gmail.com.
Hi Alex,
Congrats on your purchase.
The below is based on my experiences in the south, assuming its the same up your way.
Yes 22k seems high. But without knowing all the details can't be certain what they've quoted on. If you are engaging a builder then there are all the beurocratic elements added in.
I would advise against bringing the pipework from UK. You will just end up having compatability issues. Your local builders merchants will stock all you need so go down and have a look. In Italy Plumbers tend to use manifolds to avoid doing any T's or soldering. Its a much better system and avoids unseen risks. So for the rads on 2 floors they would 'probably use 2 manifolds. 1 on each floor. Therefore main hot and cold go to manifold then branch out to each rad. Same for bathroom -main pipes go to manifold, then from manifold distribute to bidet, basin, W.C, shower, bath etc. In future if you have a problem with any of the fittings you just go to manifold and shut off the individual fitting. The copper and PEX comes in rolls and is quite flexible.
Electrics- where in UK your 2 and 3 core cabling runs all back to the main board, In italy they tend to use single core cable instead which run from various junction boxes (a bit like the manifold scenario). Therefore before any cables are run they will install conduit of various size throughout all linked back to the junction boxes and then later on feed through the single core cables into the conduit. Switching, sockets etc are much different to UK. ENEL will give you 3KW. You can pay extra if you want more. Eg. If you wanted to run a washing load and do some hoovering with your UK dyson forget it. The power will trip.
I would love to help you but I'm at the other end of Italy, so as HUGO has suggested please engage a Geometra and get works completed officially and through the correct channels. They are much more vigilant in Italy with building work and if you step out of line they will come down on you ' hard'.
I've been doing my place up for last 5 years and it has been a rollercoaster ride. I spent almost 20 years in UK in construction, so I can make direct comparisons.
Its been worth it for me and hope you settle in and enjoy it as well!
Hi Gionata
please email me on
italyprogetti@gmail.com
As I don't think you can PM on here.
Hi Maria,
Just a couple of questions.
Where are you based when not in Italy?
Have you had any surveys, geometra look at the work?
Have you put any notices into council for the work?
Hi bosco bosco,'presa di aria per caldaia a gas'Im not sure about 'NEW' legislation but it is definately needed. In most countries you will find that it is required.In my town a family had there boiler on a balcony. Over the years they decided to enclose the balcony and use it as a utility room. On enclosing it they did not consider any ventilation. There was a gas leak on the balcony (through boiler)and because it did not have anywhere to escape(through a vent) it drifted into the kitchen where they had their fireplace. As soon as it caught a flame it exploded. The entire enclosure blew off!Gas is dangerous, so hopefully you will see the reasoning whether it is new legislation or not?
Hi Elizabeth,I think I misread your post.There is a website called 'homestay', which may be close to what your looking for. Or 'workaway' website where you live on a site and help out with day to day duties- you can choose the region and all the hosts will have their ads postedSorry for the misread
Hi Elizabeth,Welcome.Each region of Italy has different regulations for B&Bs.(max number of rooms, the compulsory bidet, etc etc,), there are also other forms such as 'agriturismo' or 'affittacamera'.Depending on your budget, I think you will find plenty of establishments already set up and for sale. If your thinking of starting fresh, you will have a lot of work ahead of you and it will be challenging (some people love a challenge)Although born in ItaIy I lived most of my early years in Australia, then went to the UK and now hopefully back to Italy (back to the roots as they say). I was hoping to set up a B&B as well but the beuracracy is pushing me away from it, but not totally out of the questionWe are in Basilicata, one of the least known and untouched(tourism) areas of Italy. If your down south get in contact.All the best
Hi Nancy,A couple of quick questions:will you be living in apartment whilst the work is carried out.Are you mainly based outside Italy. If so where?
Try the following sites:
www.subito.it
www.kijiji.it
Or any sites with 'annunci'
Hi
What exactly do you need?
When you say citron, do you mean citrus fruit?
Do you want to trade?, looking for work?