After my success answering Annec's question, its my turn. However, I’m not clever enough for an ‘Italian’ question – so I’ll go for one with a ‘Greek’ connection insteadI’m a ‘sad’ man who likes numbers.
"suggestion to bypass Basel sounds like a great idea. We too have queued for hours to get into Switzerland. I know it sounds a silly question, but has anyone got the signs that we would need to follow to go the other way, i.e. out of Switzerland?" Coming up from Lucerne on the motorway on the A2 - E35, a few miles before Basel,m you reach a junction where you either go to left [A2] to Basel or right [A3 E60] to Zurich. Take the Zurich turn and stay in the inside lane for the turn to Germany [signed 'Rheinfelden'], and you are at the border. [I did it on Sunday - went through without stopping - quickest ever border crossing!] This link should show the map - [I hope] http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/viamichelin/gbr/search/Cartes/7.783878030372938*47.587722310053[just reduce the magnification to get a decent view of the map]
Try Googling "lamezia B&B" - it throws up some cheap accommodation possibilities or if you like - there are some late night [slow] trains - but they involve longish station stops at the interchanges.After the 20.25 train, that arrives at BM at 22.09 [1 change] , there is the 00.22 that arrives at 05.50 [with a 3hr wait at Sapri] or the 01.17 train - that takes forever with 2 longish waits when changing trains [arrives about 08.22]
in my posting above i say that Castel Les Sorbieres is by the Moselle - its not, its beside the Meuse [don't seem to be able to edit anything other than the initial post in the thread]
Calais - then passing close to [on motorway] Dunkirk, Lille, Charleroi, Luxembourg, Metz, Nancy, Epinal - then over the Vosges [only bit of non-dual carriageway] to Mulhouse, then into Germany and avoid Basel by taking the last turning off the autobahn to Lorrach and into Switzerland. Then Lucerne and on to Gotthard Tunnel [take the St Gotthard Pass if you have an hour to spar, including stop for view] and on into Italy My stops are at Castel Les Sorbieres [chateau by the Moselle - a small detour in Belgium] and just outside Lucerne. Coming back we manage with one stop in the Novotel at Nancy Ouest [Laxou]. Castel Les Sorbires has the best food ever! http://www.castellessorbiers.be/UK/gallery.asp In a couple of weeks we are doing the Dover Dunkirk route for the fist time - my son has done it and says its great as there are no coach parties on the boat!
Our 'least favourite airline' appears [if 'googling' is to be believed] to have been checking hand luggage weights for some time [but not always] On a similar vein - http://www.vimeo.com/1995161 could provide an answer
Does anyone know what [if any] train services are running in the surrounding area? I assume that nothing is moving in the explosion area - but are there any services running in the general area?
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I'd avoid the property like the plague - tax dodge, plus charges against it etc etc - run like h*ell
"suggestion to bypass Basel sounds like a great idea. We too have queued for hours to get into Switzerland. I know it sounds a silly question, but has anyone got the signs that we would need to follow to go the other way, i.e. out of Switzerland?" Coming up from Lucerne on the motorway on the A2 - E35, a few miles before Basel,m you reach a junction where you either go to left [A2] to Basel or right [A3 E60] to Zurich. Take the Zurich turn and stay in the inside lane for the turn to Germany [signed 'Rheinfelden'], and you are at the border. [I did it on Sunday - went through without stopping - quickest ever border crossing!] This link should show the map - [I hope] http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/viamichelin/gbr/search/Cartes/7.783878030372938*47.587722310053[just reduce the magnification to get a decent view of the map]
deleted - failed to cut & past properly - oh well, off to italy tomorrow!
Don't know if this will help - but you can see real time traffic flows on this site http://www.autostrade.it/autostrade/traffico.do
Try Googling "lamezia B&B" - it throws up some cheap accommodation possibilities or if you like - there are some late night [slow] trains - but they involve longish station stops at the interchanges.After the 20.25 train, that arrives at BM at 22.09 [1 change] , there is the 00.22 that arrives at 05.50 [with a 3hr wait at Sapri] or the 01.17 train - that takes forever with 2 longish waits when changing trains [arrives about 08.22]
MBK - is it only down to 1 lane from Lille towards Dunkirk, or is it in both directions?
in my posting above i say that Castel Les Sorbieres is by the Moselle - its not, its beside the Meuse [don't seem to be able to edit anything other than the initial post in the thread]
Calais - then passing close to [on motorway] Dunkirk, Lille, Charleroi, Luxembourg, Metz, Nancy, Epinal - then over the Vosges [only bit of non-dual carriageway] to Mulhouse, then into Germany and avoid Basel by taking the last turning off the autobahn to Lorrach and into Switzerland. Then Lucerne and on to Gotthard Tunnel [take the St Gotthard Pass if you have an hour to spar, including stop for view] and on into Italy My stops are at Castel Les Sorbieres [chateau by the Moselle - a small detour in Belgium] and just outside Lucerne. Coming back we manage with one stop in the Novotel at Nancy Ouest [Laxou]. Castel Les Sorbires has the best food ever! http://www.castellessorbiers.be/UK/gallery.asp In a couple of weeks we are doing the Dover Dunkirk route for the fist time - my son has done it and says its great as there are no coach parties on the boat!
Our 'least favourite airline' appears [if 'googling' is to be believed] to have been checking hand luggage weights for some time [but not always] On a similar vein - http://www.vimeo.com/1995161 could provide an answer
Does anyone know what [if any] train services are running in the surrounding area? I assume that nothing is moving in the explosion area - but are there any services running in the general area?