Lisa - the "right" place hasn't shown up yet. Forget all this stress and headache. Let it happen when it happens. You will know it when it does 'cus it feels right and falls into place. Stop pushing for it to happen 'cus you're worrying about this one way too much.
Best excuse I've ever heard Ram - sounds almost like a typical Neapolitan ploy to place the blame elsewhere! I used to be a member of (yet) another forum - it was Neapolitan - called "Sfaccimmia della Gente" - run by enthusiastic, very well educated, often young, street wise, feisty and energetic Neapolitans who had certainly had enough and thought nothing about saying so - loudly - in typical Neapolitan style! It was a fairly small community at first and they were very patient with me (language barriers mainly), but I learnt a massive amount from them - they were proactive, capable, willing and ready to organise into a force to be reckoned with. They were starting to cause some people to feel quite uncomfortable higher up the food chain. Things really started to happen and the site was gaining in membership numbers very rapidly and this drew unwanted attention from certain corners. Then this happened... http://corrieredelmezzogiorno.corriere.it/napoli/notizie/cronaca/2010/22-febbraio-2010/peggio-napoletanita-raccolto-un-sito-internet-sfaccimma-gente--1602516158755.shtml Within a week, they had been closed down and the original founding members were nowhere to be seen after receiving a "friendly visit" - one or two haven't been seen around for a while. Now, whether they moved "outta town" to visit Nonna or are helping in the making of a new highway down in Calabria somewhere, who can say, but only God truly knows.
Of course the majority accept it without doing anything Ram - what other choice do they seriously have? To "do something" about the situation means living under the same extreme conditions that Saviano finds himself in. Saviano has the added protection that he is a well known journalist and therefore, high profile. He is safer than the ordinary "man in the street" would ever be who may seriously want to "do something", but without protection, the ordinary Neapolitan is just one lonely lost voice. It would mean a lot of public egg on the authorities faces should something actually happen to Saviano - can the same be said for any ordinary "man in the street"? Of course, there is safety in numbers and Neapolitans could organise themselves, but they are weary of many years of no significant change and so, they absolutely understand that it's safer to keep their gobs shut - or at the very most, mutter very quietly into their Kimbo. What intrigues me even more is why you type Neapolitan as NEapolitan - what am I missing here?
Nice one Ric! By the way, don't gasp, but my name aint really Esme, however, I do have a spaceship with a fur lined loo seat and cooking facilities. Fancy a ride?
"Esme,I also would have hoped that you would have asked for all of the facts before jumping to the conclusion that we had acted inappropriately. We are not the sorts to bypass an agent after we have seen a house with her, we were simply following the lead of our Italian friend." I didn't jump to conclusions or say you had acted inappropriately Lisa, I said that I agreed with Ugo's point of view. That's all.
I do not believe a diehard Neapolitan is any different from Saviano whatsoever! (By the way, Saviano was born in Casal di Principe, one of, if not the most mafia-ridden area in the whole of Campania - even though it is technically classed as Caserta.) Diehard Neapolitans love Naples/Campania and do not want it to be tarnished by these terrible things. It is the MINORITY that live the lifestyle of the "Camorra" - they are NOT diehard Neapolitans - they are CRIMINALS and they are not representative of, or share the characteristics of, the Neapolitan population in any way. All these things have already been exposed many times over many years and so, this is not "something new" - but I do agree it should continue to be re-hashed, even though the re-hashing has always been completely ineffective. The Capo says; "Non gironzolare vicino alla nostra casa, mio padre e' un uomo pericoloso". A Diehard Neapolitan replies; “La mia spada e' appuntita e affilata” - no matter where he is from! Fillide, my statement that "he knew what he was getting onto" refers to him fully understanding that his lifestyle would be compromised before his first story was even published and would always be so, should he continue to "expose". As I said, this exposure is just another "Segreto di Pulcinella" and therefore, not of any significant consequence or worry to the Camorra. Both sides understand the staus quo - and that is probably why he is still able to sip Kimbo.
Yes, I know what you meant and the reason he posted it there is plainly obvious - Glen has Aspergers and has difficulty/a different way of relating/connecting to/with certain things. Even though he is a pain in the ass and can turn on a sixpence sometimes, overall he is a good guy and has a great deal to offer. Let him be.
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Lisa - the "right" place hasn't shown up yet. Forget all this stress and headache. Let it happen when it happens. You will know it when it does 'cus it feels right and falls into place. Stop pushing for it to happen 'cus you're worrying about this one way too much.
Can only take the horse to the cow shed - cant make him poo.
Best excuse I've ever heard Ram - sounds almost like a typical Neapolitan ploy to place the blame elsewhere!
I used to be a member of (yet) another forum - it was Neapolitan - called "Sfaccimmia della Gente" - run by enthusiastic, very well educated, often young, street wise, feisty and energetic Neapolitans who had certainly had enough and thought nothing about saying so - loudly - in typical Neapolitan style! It was a fairly small community at first and they were very patient with me (language barriers mainly), but I learnt a massive amount from them - they were proactive, capable, willing and ready to organise into a force to be reckoned with. They were starting to cause some people to feel quite uncomfortable higher up the food chain. Things really started to happen and the site was gaining in membership numbers very rapidly and this drew unwanted attention from certain corners. Then this happened... http://corrieredelmezzogiorno.corriere.it/napoli/notizie/cronaca/2010/22-febbraio-2010/peggio-napoletanita-raccolto-un-sito-internet-sfaccimma-gente--1602516158755.shtml Within a week, they had been closed down and the original founding members were nowhere to be seen after receiving a "friendly visit" - one or two haven't been seen around for a while. Now, whether they moved "outta town" to visit Nonna or are helping in the making of a new highway down in Calabria somewhere, who can say, but only God truly knows.
Of course the majority accept it without doing anything Ram - what other choice do they seriously have? To "do something" about the situation means living under the same extreme conditions that Saviano finds himself in. Saviano has the added protection that he is a well known journalist and therefore, high profile. He is safer than the ordinary "man in the street" would ever be who may seriously want to "do something", but without protection, the ordinary Neapolitan is just one lonely lost voice. It would mean a lot of public egg on the authorities faces should something actually happen to Saviano - can the same be said for any ordinary "man in the street"? Of course, there is safety in numbers and Neapolitans could organise themselves, but they are weary of many years of no significant change and so, they absolutely understand that it's safer to keep their gobs shut - or at the very most, mutter very quietly into their Kimbo. What intrigues me even more is why you type Neapolitan as NEapolitan - what am I missing here?
Nice one Ric! By the way, don't gasp, but my name aint really Esme, however, I do have a spaceship with a fur lined loo seat and cooking facilities. Fancy a ride?
"Esme, I also would have hoped that you would have asked for all of the facts before jumping to the conclusion that we had acted inappropriately. We are not the sorts to bypass an agent after we have seen a house with her, we were simply following the lead of our Italian friend." I didn't jump to conclusions or say you had acted inappropriately Lisa, I said that I agreed with Ugo's point of view. That's all.
Atessa - Ricks name is Rickardo - not Ricardo. Capisci ora?
I do not believe a diehard Neapolitan is any different from Saviano whatsoever! (By the way, Saviano was born in Casal di Principe, one of, if not the most mafia-ridden area in the whole of Campania - even though it is technically classed as Caserta.) Diehard Neapolitans love Naples/Campania and do not want it to be tarnished by these terrible things. It is the MINORITY that live the lifestyle of the "Camorra" - they are NOT diehard Neapolitans - they are CRIMINALS and they are not representative of, or share the characteristics of, the Neapolitan population in any way. All these things have already been exposed many times over many years and so, this is not "something new" - but I do agree it should continue to be re-hashed, even though the re-hashing has always been completely ineffective. The Capo says; "Non gironzolare vicino alla nostra casa, mio padre e' un uomo pericoloso". A Diehard Neapolitan replies; “La mia spada e' appuntita e affilata” - no matter where he is from! Fillide, my statement that "he knew what he was getting onto" refers to him fully understanding that his lifestyle would be compromised before his first story was even published and would always be so, should he continue to "expose". As I said, this exposure is just another "Segreto di Pulcinella" and therefore, not of any significant consequence or worry to the Camorra. Both sides understand the staus quo - and that is probably why he is still able to sip Kimbo.
Yes, I know what you meant and the reason he posted it there is plainly obvious - Glen has Aspergers and has difficulty/a different way of relating/connecting to/with certain things. Even though he is a pain in the ass and can turn on a sixpence sometimes, overall he is a good guy and has a great deal to offer. Let him be.