Speeding FinesOn the journey from Lucca

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11/20/2019 - 05:53

Speeding FinesOn the journey from Lucca to the UK I incurred two speeding fines during travel through France by motorway. In each case I was travelling "up to 20km per hour" over the speed limit. We travel a couple of times a year by car to and from Italy usually through France for the last 8 years, and this is the first time I have incurred speeding fines. My questions are:1. am I simply missing the speed cameras at the side of the motorway that perhaps weren't there in the past, so I need to be careful and make sure I drive within the speed limits?2. I've read a post on this forum which said that the fines are automatic if, having taken a toll ticket, it is clear that the driver must have breached the speed limit by arriving too soon at the next toll - in other words are the toll stations are effectively monitoring speed limits between two given points? If anyone has a view on this I'd be interested to hear - perhaps others have been doing this or similar journeys and have started to incur fines were previously no known breaches of the speed limits took place? 

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There is a link to UK so fine has to be paid if you want to avoid serious issues driving across France in the future. A fine is valid if delivered with an English translation and with method of local payment. I have noticed more speed cameras in last couple of years plus the use of average speed checks on tolls. Doesn't help that many roads have reduced the limit to 80 kph.

Some limits have been reduced and tightened in the last year, especially around cities, to limit pollution. Also, care is needed when approaching the toll area, conformance to the limit signs is a strict requirement in some areas.

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Some very interesting points here, but I wonder how many people follow them. We usually make two return trips a year from Puglia to Scotland so we have a good experience to make comparisons.

In Puglia there are some very strange variations on traffic manoeuvres, the classic one at traffic lights in Lecce where people drive on the wrong side of the road to position themselves at the front of the left turn lane to be first to go straight ahead or turn right when the lights change.

Crossing on a zebra crossing is a case of severe risk if there is a vehicle anywhere in sight because it will definitely not slow down. Usually on the Autostrada when traveling at the posted limit, whether there are cameras Tutor or other monitoring system, northern cities excluded where drivers mostly control their speed, we are usually passed by vehicles being driven well in excess of the limit. Before the   Ponte Morandi collapsed, driving around Genoa used to be one of the most hair raising parts of the journey with vehicles speeding and abruptly changing lanes. As for police, well we have journeyed the length of Italy on several occasions and not seen one traffic police car.

Some very interesting points here, but I wonder how many people follow them. We usually make two return trips a year from Puglia to Scotland so we have a good experience to make comparisons.

In Puglia there are some very strange variations on traffic manoeuvres, the classic one at traffic lights in Lecce where people drive on the wrong side of the road to position themselves at the front of the left turn lane to be first to go straight ahead or turn right when the lights change.

Crossing on a zebra crossing is a case of severe risk if there is a vehicle anywhere in sight because it will definitely not slow down. Usually on the Autostrada when traveling at the posted limit, whether there are cameras Tutor or other monitoring system, northern cities excluded where drivers mostly control their speed, we are usually passed by vehicles being driven well in excess of the limit. Before the   Ponte Morandi collapsed, driving around Genoa used to be one of the most hair raising parts of the journey with vehicles speeding and abruptly changing lanes. As for police, well we have journeyed the length of Italy on several occasions and not seen one traffic police car.

Some very interesting points here, but I wonder how many people follow them. We usually make two return trips a year from Puglia to Scotland so we have a good experience to make comparisons.

In Puglia there are some very strange variations on traffic manoeuvres, the classic one at traffic lights in Lecce where people drive on the wrong side of the road to position themselves at the front of the left turn lane to be first to go straight ahead or turn right when the lights change.

Crossing on a zebra crossing is a case of severe risk if there is a vehicle anywhere in sight because it will definitely not slow down. Usually on the Autostrada when traveling at the posted limit, whether there are cameras Tutor or other monitoring system, northern cities excluded where drivers mostly control their speed, we are usually passed by vehicles being driven well in excess of the limit.

Before the   Ponte Morandi collapsed, driving around Genoa used to be one of the most hair raising parts of the journey with vehicles speeding and abruptly changing lanes.

As for police, well we have journeyed the length of Italy on several occasions and not seen one traffic police car.

Hi there,

 

Since Sarkozy cracked down on road rules, France has installed very strict rules when it comes to speeding. They don't even tolerate 1 km/h above the set speed limit there. Very different from Italy where you might get away with 10 km/h above. Be super careful and always follow the limits when crossing the country. And the radar are black or dark blue (generally) so not as visible as the orange ones you will find in many other countries.

Also, the toll to toll speed check is always on so, it will check on your time/distance ratio (here again, Italy doesn't always have them working so, very different).

Who knows if your fines will still be on file in France now that the UK is no longer in the EU? Would be interesting to find out...;)