Hi Everyone, I am looking at

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07/26/2019 - 16:44

Hi Everyone, I am looking at buying a very old property in Italy that currently does not have power or water connected to the site. I am wondering if anyone has any experience around the cost or process for connect power to a property in a situation like this?  Thanks!Laura



There is no obligation of the utility companies to connect you.  ENEL can simpley refuse and the water company similarly will not connect you to a mains system if you are nowhere near it.     there's no harm in asking, but have a plan B - photovoltaics, borehole and cistern.  As to time and money - it will all depends where you are, how difficult and how far the connection is from the rest of the grid.   

We got connected with electricity fairly quickly with a SMART meter so no issues other than it's so much more expensive than UK but hey that's fine. Water however took us about 7 months to get connected- it was a nightmare. Overall cost about €1800 as we need roads closed and dug up over 2 days.

Thanks for the update. 7 months, whoa. Sounds pretty rough, I can't even imagine the Italien red tape you must've dealt with. I see it mentioned a lot that electricity is much more expensive, but online statistics show that the price pr. Kwh is about the same in Italy as in the UK. About 20 cent in UK and 23 cent in Italy, including taxes. What am I missing?Keep in mind I am saying this from the most expensive country in Europe (Denmark), with 30 cent per Kwh. 

Good morning,
Unfortunately the numbers given do not match the reality.

For ENEL we are talking about 0.27-0.30 €/kWh meanwhile, for gas, we are talking about 0.80 €/mc (depending by the market) that's why the most common fuel for heating properties is wood as PV won't cover the consumption needed to warm up a house (a 100 sqm house requires 5 Thermal kW, i.e. 12 Electric kW, i.e. 300 kWh/day approximately depending by insulation, air tightness, PV efficiency, etc.)

Please note numbers given are not accurate because, as I previously mentioned, I haven't accounted insulation, air tightness, house orientation, etc.

Country houses, in Italy, in the past were inhabited by individuals who lived on agriculture, and plowed their land with oxen, oxen drink water twice a day. It is practically impossible, that in the vicinity of the house, there is no well, or a spring of water. Try taking a few walks around your house or asking your neighbors, you will see that you will find either a spring or some well, maybe no longer used to be reactivated. 

Hi Ugo
I have found the property has a well but im not sure how much water that will supply. I have done more research into the property and there appears to be some old bathrooms so they must be accessing water from somewhere. Unfortunately I am abroad so it's difficult to see it all myself.

Agreed Ugo - every village in our area has a communal fountain and we filled many a 5l bottle during our dry months. The water is perfectly drinkable.
As for electricity we are now with Setvicio Ellettrico and pay roughly €50 bi monthly so around €300 per annum. We cook by gas but other than that all electric. We are only here for 4 weeks if the year however and our standing charge is still around €50.
Hope all this info helps.

bassopianettoto know how much water a well can supply, there is a very simple system - take a rope and wrap one of the ends around a stone, then make knots, one for each meter, starting from stone - say 6 knots - and lower it into the well, until the stone touches the bottom - then pull it up - if the water exceeds the sixth node, other nodes will always be made at one meter - if you do not exceed it the superfluous nodoi will melt - In this way, counting the number of the covered by the water and multiplying it for the diameter of the well, it will have a good approximation of the volume of water contained in the well.Once this is done, it is completely emptied, and an x ​​number of tests will be made, to calculate how long, the water, in the well, takes to return to the node where it was, before emptying it completely.By dividing the volume of water, for the time taken to fill, the well flow rate will be reached.Of course if you are abroad, to know the water flow of your well, you will have to wait to return to Italy - Or hire someone to do this for you.

Good morning,
I am taking the opporunity to point out water wells are not so uncommon…..There are properties, even, with an inside well (the meaning of "use it or lose it" at its best!)

Take this property, for example, (https://www.italymagazine.com/property-for-sale-in-italy/106752-guest-house-two-properties-price-one)

Casa Antica has got a well located in the kitchen so it would be a spectacular feature once restored….The set up is ideal to create a B&B (Casa Antica will be the family house meanwhile Casa Aia will be the guest block) with a pool; an amazing opportunity to create a business in an area, the Golfo di Policastro, where nature has been kept wild and "unspoiled" being within two national parks ("Parco Nazionale del Pollino" e "Parco Nazionale del Cilento e Vallo di Diano").

Please find following a link to a short movie showing a "glimpse" of the area; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wx8R4dc62E