Yes Andrea, but just to clarify, the "Italian Nationals" the guide referred to were obviously fascist guerillas still fighting for the Nazis. It is hardly appropriate for me to single out the restaurant!
Hi Mark, hope we meet sometime, although we live some way down the road we have many friends in the BdL area. This is another blog you should certainly follow: http://lovebagnidilucca.wordpress.com/tag/bagni-di-lucca-blog/ You'll find Lo Spicchio in the member list, PM me by all means
I lived in Bagni di Lucca for a while, a hotbed of fascism if ever there was one. Even a local restaurant proudly displayed Mussolini era photographs and memorabilia. Ironically a few doors down from me was the regional headquarters of the communist party - a miserable, run-down little office - but that's not the point of this anecdote. One day I joined a walking tour. there were 10 Italians plus me and my daughter. The chatty guide stopped after a while, in a glade with a small stone building. He began regaling us with a dramatic story of the last days of the war. In this area, he said. the final battles of the war occurred, as the mainly US forces overcame residual German defences. And here, on this very spot, a brave band of Italian nationals fell upon an enemy scouting party, slaying all 6 of them. He wiped away a tear of emotion as his audience nodded and clapped appreciatively. Only half understanding, I commented to my daughter that I hoped not too many Italian villagers were murdered in reprisal of partisan action, as was the Nazi's wont. "No, Dad" she muttered in a low voice, "it was Americans they killed".
Amaretto, you could run an independant PV system just for your pool pump + probably to top up house hot water. In the winter you'd still get a significant kick from a 3 KW potential set of panels (about 12 sq metres). You'll need a bigger hot water tank probably. It's unlikely to be worth not tying up to the grid, however. I'm not even sure you'd get the full production tariff if you don't. At about 38 c/kwh (if you're quick) plus a small contribution if there's unused leccy going into the grid, it's pretty well obligatory. One things for sure: there are plenty of photovoltaic installers around, jumping on the bandwagon, so cast about for good prices. Cheers Lo Spic.
Well, it seems nobody reading the forum is with ItalyPowered or at least owning up to it. What about any other suppliers in Italy? It seems unbelievable that the industry was (sort of) deregulated years ago, yet everybody is still stuck with ENEL at 25c/kwh or more. In UK every user in the country must have a choice of 12 suppliers or more, at rates below 17c/kwh on average. Haven't researched extensivly but must say have drawn a blank so far. Anyone out there with any suggestions/experience to pass on? There's another thread about photovoltaics - foreign owners with established residence should look that subject up. Ciao tutti, per ora!
I found it! the link had disappeared from the bottom of all webpages but here it is hidden in the FAQ's: http://www.italypowered.com/faqs.html Click on the tab for the Sample Bills. They repeat the mistake: Our new, flat-rate is 0.75 cents per KWh - saving you even more on your electricity bills!
Just want to repeat an answer in a different thread, and would appreciate feedback on this: My last ENEL bill works out to 22.45 c/kwh (€326.21 for 1453 kwh on a 6 kwh supply)On the ItalyPowerd website there was - until this morning - a sample bill showing clearly that buying from them entailed an effective price of 32.73. A second sample bill, which has also been taken down - I wonder why - showed lower usage which pushed up IP's effective to 48 c/kwh (due to high fixed charges).So their strapline: "Save up to 60%..." should read "Spend 30% more..."Interesting mistake, coupled with disinformatiion, on their front page:
Choose from either a fixed rate of 0.75 cents per KWh, or our "twin hour" option: 0.84 cents per KWh peak rate and 0.69 cents per KWh evenings and weekends.
No hidden extras for non-residents
Er, 'scuse me, I can only guess that there's a decimal point in the wrong place. But nowhere, and I mean NOWHERE, on the site is shown all the blah blah stuff added on that trebles/quadruples the actual charge on the bottom line. Hope this makes sense and helps people.
Kensington, Badger, et al: there are some strange figures being bandied about. Let's get to the bottom of things: My last ENEL bill works out to 22.45 c/kwh (€326.21 for 1453 kwh on a 6 kwh supply) On the ItalyPowerd website there was - until this morning - a sample bill showing clearly that buying from them entailed an effective price of 32.73. A second sample bill, which has also been taken down - I wonder why - showed lower usage which pushed up IP's effective to 48 c/kwh (due to high fixed charges). So their strapline: "Save up to 60%..." should read "Spend 30% more..." Interesting mistake, coupled with disinformatiion, on their front page:
Choose from either a fixed rate of 0.75 cents per KWh, or our "twin hour" option: 0.84 cents per KWh peak rate and 0.69 cents per KWh evenings and weekends.
No hidden extras for non-residents
Er, 'scuse me, I can only guess that there's a decimal point in the wrong place. But nowhere, and I mean NOWHERE, on the site is shown all the blah blah stuff added on that trebles/quadruples the actual charge on the bottom line. Hope this makes sense and helps people.
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Yes Andrea, but just to clarify, the "Italian Nationals" the guide referred to were obviously fascist guerillas still fighting for the Nazis. It is hardly appropriate for me to single out the restaurant!
Hi Mark, hope we meet sometime, although we live some way down the road we have many friends in the BdL area. This is another blog you should certainly follow: http://lovebagnidilucca.wordpress.com/tag/bagni-di-lucca-blog/ You'll find Lo Spicchio in the member list, PM me by all means
I lived in Bagni di Lucca for a while, a hotbed of fascism if ever there was one. Even a local restaurant proudly displayed Mussolini era photographs and memorabilia. Ironically a few doors down from me was the regional headquarters of the communist party - a miserable, run-down little office - but that's not the point of this anecdote. One day I joined a walking tour. there were 10 Italians plus me and my daughter. The chatty guide stopped after a while, in a glade with a small stone building. He began regaling us with a dramatic story of the last days of the war. In this area, he said. the final battles of the war occurred, as the mainly US forces overcame residual German defences. And here, on this very spot, a brave band of Italian nationals fell upon an enemy scouting party, slaying all 6 of them. He wiped away a tear of emotion as his audience nodded and clapped appreciatively. Only half understanding, I commented to my daughter that I hoped not too many Italian villagers were murdered in reprisal of partisan action, as was the Nazi's wont. "No, Dad" she muttered in a low voice, "it was Americans they killed".
Amaretto, you could run an independant PV system just for your pool pump + probably to top up house hot water. In the winter you'd still get a significant kick from a 3 KW potential set of panels (about 12 sq metres). You'll need a bigger hot water tank probably. It's unlikely to be worth not tying up to the grid, however. I'm not even sure you'd get the full production tariff if you don't. At about 38 c/kwh (if you're quick) plus a small contribution if there's unused leccy going into the grid, it's pretty well obligatory. One things for sure: there are plenty of photovoltaic installers around, jumping on the bandwagon, so cast about for good prices. Cheers Lo Spic.
Well, it seems nobody reading the forum is with ItalyPowered or at least owning up to it. What about any other suppliers in Italy? It seems unbelievable that the industry was (sort of) deregulated years ago, yet everybody is still stuck with ENEL at 25c/kwh or more. In UK every user in the country must have a choice of 12 suppliers or more, at rates below 17c/kwh on average. Haven't researched extensivly but must say have drawn a blank so far. Anyone out there with any suggestions/experience to pass on? There's another thread about photovoltaics - foreign owners with established residence should look that subject up. Ciao tutti, per ora!
I found it! the link had disappeared from the bottom of all webpages but here it is hidden in the FAQ's: http://www.italypowered.com/faqs.html Click on the tab for the Sample Bills. They repeat the mistake: Our new, flat-rate is 0.75 cents per KWh - saving you even more on your electricity bills!
Just want to repeat an answer in a different thread, and would appreciate feedback on this: My last ENEL bill works out to 22.45 c/kwh (€326.21 for 1453 kwh on a 6 kwh supply) On the ItalyPowerd website there was - until this morning - a sample bill showing clearly that buying from them entailed an effective price of 32.73. A second sample bill, which has also been taken down - I wonder why - showed lower usage which pushed up IP's effective to 48 c/kwh (due to high fixed charges). So their strapline: "Save up to 60%..." should read "Spend 30% more..." Interesting mistake, coupled with disinformatiion, on their front page:
Er, 'scuse me, I can only guess that there's a decimal point in the wrong place. But nowhere, and I mean NOWHERE, on the site is shown all the blah blah stuff added on that trebles/quadruples the actual charge on the bottom line. Hope this makes sense and helps people.
By the way it most certainly IS NOT normal or acceptable that a new supplier charges you to switch to them!!!
Kensington, Badger, et al: there are some strange figures being bandied about. Let's get to the bottom of things: My last ENEL bill works out to 22.45 c/kwh (€326.21 for 1453 kwh on a 6 kwh supply) On the ItalyPowerd website there was - until this morning - a sample bill showing clearly that buying from them entailed an effective price of 32.73. A second sample bill, which has also been taken down - I wonder why - showed lower usage which pushed up IP's effective to 48 c/kwh (due to high fixed charges). So their strapline: "Save up to 60%..." should read "Spend 30% more..." Interesting mistake, coupled with disinformatiion, on their front page:
Er, 'scuse me, I can only guess that there's a decimal point in the wrong place. But nowhere, and I mean NOWHERE, on the site is shown all the blah blah stuff added on that trebles/quadruples the actual charge on the bottom line. Hope this makes sense and helps people.