Hi Ugo, Residenza Elettiva- this is for non EU passport holders- is that correct?Therefore if UK leave EU and give up the freedom of movement rights, I assume that this will be available to UK passport holders?
Hi Georgie,Not offay with your part of Italy, but the Italian government did implement some courses for immigrants to learn the Italian language(funded by the gov). You could ask at your local comune or school if they know of any upcoming courses. (or even a teacher that may want some extra work after hours could help you)Or even try www.subito.it
Hi RikiB,Phone: you can get a pay and go type sim which has monthly deals etc. All you need for this is your ID (PASSPORT or DRIVERS LIC). Doesn't have to be Italian ID. In small towns they might try and tell you that you need CODICE FISCALE but you don't.For purchasing goods etc, car, property and even when someone needs to invoice you for doing some work they need the CODICE FISCLAE. Go to the Agenzia delle Entrate FOR MORE INFO. They have sections in Englishwww1.agenziaentrate.gov.it/english/ Good Luck!!!
HiI am based in London and could make some suggestions however don't really want to advertise my personal contact details on here. Is their a way of sending a personal message on this sight?
Hi Mister Stefano, I've only just realised that the original post was from 2009. My experiences are from 2012.It would be interesting to know how Liam ended up with the entire process.Your right about the casual part but as soon as someone in the loop is unhappy, regulations seem to appear out of nowhere!
Hi Liam,My experience in Italy is that progress can be very slow if you don't have all the relevant people in the loop. I think on planning permission they give you 3 years to complete!When you start the build you will need to set up the site which involves safety fencing, signange etc. Your standard sign will have a list of responsible people on it. I don't think you can 'officially' manage the build yourself.From your post you say that all the permissions are in place. I'm assuming you have all the following in place: sismic risk area report, you will also need a report done by a geologist for soil type, suitability for septic tank(if required)- this will also confirm if you need any special foundations.Engineer basically takes responsibility for the project, then there will be a secondary engineer who checks your engineers calculations and signs off. If your in a sismic area your calcs go to another government department for signing off.As you are doing a proper build and not just maintenance works the responsible person must get the details of the main builder and submit these with the 'building notice'. Details of builder also includes details of his employment status(insurances, paid up contributions etc, etc) which go on the signage for the job.I'm not sure of your familiarity with HEALTH and SAFETY, but in Italy the beuracracy is unbelievable. The responsible person would liase with the builder to ensure this is in place. When (not if) the Health an Safety people come they are looking for compliance. The builder can get hit with some hefty fines if there are any violations. They also check on all workers on site to make sure they are all have the correct employment status- basically they will want to ensure that they are paid up with their contributions. THEY CAN SHUT DOWN THE SITE IF THEY HAVE REASON TO! I think by law your (you the owner) not even allowed on site unaccompanied by the responsible person.BEURACRACY EXAMPLE: To erect saffolding you need 2 reports done with drawings, photos etc, all submitted to relevant department. The reports stay on site. The engineer oversees the erection and checks it etc, The erector must have the relevant certification. You will need to pay the guy who does the report anywhere between 600 and 1000, which is just a 'copy and paste' from a previous jobTHE ENGINEERS AND GEOMETRAS IN ITALY ARE A NECESSITY and their roles are part of the whole process. Health and Safety, Comune, Geologists, Builders etc will all want them in the loop.Not sure from where you originate, but in Italy(especially south) it is difficult in terms of 'what you want' and 'what you get'. Eg. You may be accustomed to having windows that open out but in Italy they open in and all sit on a marble cill.GOOD LUCK but remember you can not 'officially' manage your job, you will just have to oversee and liase.Feel free to contact me if you have any doubts. I have extensive experience in London and Australia and the last 4 years(part time) in Italy.
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Hi Ugo, Residenza Elettiva- this is for non EU passport holders- is that correct?Therefore if UK leave EU and give up the freedom of movement rights, I assume that this will be available to UK passport holders?
Hi Georgie,Not offay with your part of Italy, but the Italian government did implement some courses for immigrants to learn the Italian language(funded by the gov). You could ask at your local comune or school if they know of any upcoming courses. (or even a teacher that may want some extra work after hours could help you)Or even try www.subito.it
Hi RikiB,Phone: you can get a pay and go type sim which has monthly deals etc. All you need for this is your ID (PASSPORT or DRIVERS LIC). Doesn't have to be Italian ID. In small towns they might try and tell you that you need CODICE FISCALE but you don't.For purchasing goods etc, car, property and even when someone needs to invoice you for doing some work they need the CODICE FISCLAE. Go to the Agenzia delle Entrate FOR MORE INFO. They have sections in Englishwww1.agenziaentrate.gov.it/english/ Good Luck!!!
italyprogetti@gmail.com. If you want to send me yours to this email
HiI am based in London and could make some suggestions however don't really want to advertise my personal contact details on here. Is their a way of sending a personal message on this sight?
Hi M Nobel, Sorry to hear about your problems.I assume your not in Italy. Where are you based?
Hi Mister Stefano, I've only just realised that the original post was from 2009. My experiences are from 2012.It would be interesting to know how Liam ended up with the entire process.Your right about the casual part but as soon as someone in the loop is unhappy, regulations seem to appear out of nowhere!
Hi Liam,My experience in Italy is that progress can be very slow if you don't have all the relevant people in the loop. I think on planning permission they give you 3 years to complete!When you start the build you will need to set up the site which involves safety fencing, signange etc. Your standard sign will have a list of responsible people on it. I don't think you can 'officially' manage the build yourself.From your post you say that all the permissions are in place. I'm assuming you have all the following in place: sismic risk area report, you will also need a report done by a geologist for soil type, suitability for septic tank(if required)- this will also confirm if you need any special foundations.Engineer basically takes responsibility for the project, then there will be a secondary engineer who checks your engineers calculations and signs off. If your in a sismic area your calcs go to another government department for signing off.As you are doing a proper build and not just maintenance works the responsible person must get the details of the main builder and submit these with the 'building notice'. Details of builder also includes details of his employment status(insurances, paid up contributions etc, etc) which go on the signage for the job.I'm not sure of your familiarity with HEALTH and SAFETY, but in Italy the beuracracy is unbelievable. The responsible person would liase with the builder to ensure this is in place. When (not if) the Health an Safety people come they are looking for compliance. The builder can get hit with some hefty fines if there are any violations. They also check on all workers on site to make sure they are all have the correct employment status- basically they will want to ensure that they are paid up with their contributions. THEY CAN SHUT DOWN THE SITE IF THEY HAVE REASON TO! I think by law your (you the owner) not even allowed on site unaccompanied by the responsible person.BEURACRACY EXAMPLE: To erect saffolding you need 2 reports done with drawings, photos etc, all submitted to relevant department. The reports stay on site. The engineer oversees the erection and checks it etc, The erector must have the relevant certification. You will need to pay the guy who does the report anywhere between 600 and 1000, which is just a 'copy and paste' from a previous jobTHE ENGINEERS AND GEOMETRAS IN ITALY ARE A NECESSITY and their roles are part of the whole process. Health and Safety, Comune, Geologists, Builders etc will all want them in the loop.Not sure from where you originate, but in Italy(especially south) it is difficult in terms of 'what you want' and 'what you get'. Eg. You may be accustomed to having windows that open out but in Italy they open in and all sit on a marble cill.GOOD LUCK but remember you can not 'officially' manage your job, you will just have to oversee and liase.Feel free to contact me if you have any doubts. I have extensive experience in London and Australia and the last 4 years(part time) in Italy.