Hi there - it's time to renew our house/contents insurance, and yet again Intasure have bumped up their premium, this time by nearly 20%, despite the fact that we have never claimed, and they have also removed earthquake cover.
Used car puchase. So, I have read and trawled extensively and it seems clear (albeit pretty unreasonable) that unless you have a residence permit you need to get someone else (who has one) to "own" the vehicle for you.
Things change quickly. At present you need a PCR or antigen test (cheaper) 48 hr before entering Italy as well as the digital locator form. Returning to the UK you need the British form plus (today) a PCR on day 2 but this will very shortly change to a lateral flow (antigen) test on day 2; worth checking precisely when this come in (likely to be before October 22nd) as it will save money.
Incidentally, you might want to check out the Frejus tunnel as an entry point as it delivers you straight into Northern Italy. We prefer it as it is much less busy, although it is slightly more expensive.
I last posted about this 3 years ago, and this is just to check (more in hope than expectation) that nothing has changed in the last few years . Has anyone succeeded in buying a car despite being non-resident? Thanks
Sadly they were not interested.....I have tried pretty hard to find alternatives, strangely it seems to be a very limited market unless you use an Italian company, which for various (obvious) reasons I would prefer not to do
Hi Alan - of course you are right, and we had all the necessary paperwork; the point of my post was simply that in fact no-one asked us to show anything (and I know at least 2 others who had the same experience). At the time we went we were also supposed to register with the local USL but despite strenuous efforts it proved impossible. Its different of course when you fly, but the only controls we experienced were at Folkestone before the train.
We drove via the Frejus tunnel, not the Mont Blanc, but I would guess its the same - precisely nothing! Since there is no border (both Schengen) there are no controls.
Thanks for the suggestion. I have had a look at their website and as far as I can see they will cover contents but not buildings, so would not work for us. Interestingly they do offer car insurance, which is potentially very useful since otherwise owning a car in Italy is essentially impossible, particularly now we have left the EU.
Buying a car is impossibleThis is just to report that despite a concerted atempt to explore every possible avenue, it is imposible to buy a car in Italy if you do not have residency. It is the case that this was briefly possible some years ago, but the law has changed (again). Extremely irritating that you can buy a house but not a car - but such is life in la bella Italia.
Thanks modicasa, all good points. Clearly the next steps are to get a geometra to do a proper search to establish both title and allocation of the parcels we are interested in. We are not proposing to divide any parcels, so that is OK. But of course you are right; the minute we show interest the price will go up. As far as I can determine at the moment the parcels concerned are pascolo or agricultural land without existing buildings and no rights to build (of course we need to double check this) but if that is indeed the case, do you have a feel for what would be a reasonable price per hectare? Thanks
Many thanks Steve. It gives data for 2011 which is good enough as a general guide. Of course the offical valore is not necessarily the same as you would pay to buy the land.....The valore is broken down by the zoning (whether the particelle are categorized as bosco, pascolo etc etc) so the next step is to track down that information.
Thanks. On this occasion we want to buy the car from some English friends who are selling up. While we are still in the EU it would be nice to be able to take advantage of it.....
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Things change quickly. At present you need a PCR or antigen test (cheaper) 48 hr before entering Italy as well as the digital locator form. Returning to the UK you need the British form plus (today) a PCR on day 2 but this will very shortly change to a lateral flow (antigen) test on day 2; worth checking precisely when this come in (likely to be before October 22nd) as it will save money.
Incidentally, you might want to check out the Frejus tunnel as an entry point as it delivers you straight into Northern Italy. We prefer it as it is much less busy, although it is slightly more expensive.
Buying a car.
I last posted about this 3 years ago, and this is just to check (more in hope than expectation) that nothing has changed in the last few years . Has anyone succeeded in buying a car despite being non-resident? Thanks
Sadly they were not interested.....I have tried pretty hard to find alternatives, strangely it seems to be a very limited market unless you use an Italian company, which for various (obvious) reasons I would prefer not to do
Hi Alan - of course you are right, and we had all the necessary paperwork; the point of my post was simply that in fact no-one asked us to show anything (and I know at least 2 others who had the same experience). At the time we went we were also supposed to register with the local USL but despite strenuous efforts it proved impossible. Its different of course when you fly, but the only controls we experienced were at Folkestone before the train.
We drove via the Frejus tunnel, not the Mont Blanc, but I would guess its the same - precisely nothing! Since there is no border (both Schengen) there are no controls.
Thanks for the suggestion. I have had a look at their website and as far as I can see they will cover contents but not buildings, so would not work for us. Interestingly they do offer car insurance, which is potentially very useful since otherwise owning a car in Italy is essentially impossible, particularly now we have left the EU.
Buying a car is impossibleThis is just to report that despite a concerted atempt to explore every possible avenue, it is imposible to buy a car in Italy if you do not have residency. It is the case that this was briefly possible some years ago, but the law has changed (again). Extremely irritating that you can buy a house but not a car - but such is life in la bella Italia.
Thanks modicasa, all good points. Clearly the next steps are to get a geometra to do a proper search to establish both title and allocation of the parcels we are interested in. We are not proposing to divide any parcels, so that is OK. But of course you are right; the minute we show interest the price will go up. As far as I can determine at the moment the parcels concerned are pascolo or agricultural land without existing buildings and no rights to build (of course we need to double check this) but if that is indeed the case, do you have a feel for what would be a reasonable price per hectare? Thanks
Many thanks Steve. It gives data for 2011 which is good enough as a general guide. Of course the offical valore is not necessarily the same as you would pay to buy the land.....The valore is broken down by the zoning (whether the particelle are categorized as bosco, pascolo etc etc) so the next step is to track down that information.
Thanks. On this occasion we want to buy the car from some English friends who are selling up. While we are still in the EU it would be nice to be able to take advantage of it.....