from 1 July any act of sale must include a certificate of energy saving which every house in Italy will eventually need and should be displayed next to the numero civico of the property.
The very nice man at the Agenzia dell'Entrate has told me the following.... As long as you dont sell the house, and you did take residency within the 18 month limit, there will be no problem if you have to renounce your residency before the 5 years is up. If you ever get questions on this, it is enough to get a visura storica of your residence from the anagrafe which shows you were resident in the comune in question at some point. If you were to sell, that another minestrone.... Hope that helps.
hmmm not really indicative of Italy though is it - i mean taking post round in Venice is a bit different from chucking it in the nearest cassonetta in Campania. And to be honest, not sure how much time Donna spends in Italy - she seems to spend most her life in Manhattan where if you dont tip the postman they kidnap you. So, I ve lived all over the place, never tipped a postman and am still here to tell the tale. Never got a Xmas card from an Italian either.
If the works were done before Sept 1967 then you are in the clear - and its difficult to be precise about such things, as there was no paperwork back then. Its amazing how many 1980s extensions were suddenly built 20 years previously. However you do have a strong point in your favour. If this agent is a working geometra, and he is also a valid estate agent who took commission on your purchase, and was cited in the act of sale, he acted illegally. He cannot be both - if he is an agent he should have revolked his geometras licence and vice versa. LEt him know that you know that he should know and he should bend over backwards to accommodate you GRATIS.
Well, I think your agent is being a bit economical with the truth. Legally in 2006 it wasnt necessary to provide all the paperwork that is now required for an act of sale, so yes, some authorisations/non authorisations slipped through the net. However, if its the same agent that sold you the property, I think you are perfectly entitled to say 'why didnt you sort it/alert me at the time - in stead he wanted an easy sale, the 'stupid' foreigner wont know and the old owners got away without paying what they should have paid. I would take the agent to task frankly, at least let him know that you know that he knows etc For the rest - without knowing more its impossible to say whether they will send bulldozers or just sign it off - but it depends on what are the significant changes and where the property is.
If you didnt pay in June, or your comune has fixed an aliquota different to the default, you must pay the difference plus (if late) the sanction and interest, putting a cross in the AVV box if you're using an F24.
well said FLip - -- but have you EVER seen an Italian eat a pizza with a cappuccino ? beer wine water COke - but pizza with a milky coffee must be disgusting in any country - though Starbucks probably has it on offer at hte moment.
At least it's well written! Most expats think that they can cobble together an amusing article without having an idea about how to write. Mind you - pizza and cappuccino ugh..
You paid tax on the purchase price because it was a unita colabenti - ie it wasnt a house / wasnt habitable. Now it is a house, and will have a rendita. However, the calculations were done then, and nothing can change that. If the AdE wants you to pay back something then it will use the original calculations.
I dont think it has anything to do with the amount of members of parliament. It has everything to do with the legal system which has enshrined the nonmutability of a constitution which is already outdated. According to your figures Gaia the US has a representative for every 70.000 of the population while Italy has one for every 100.000 ! I am all for the cutting of parliamentary costs, but I dont think they should cut the number of MP's - the problem is another - In Italy a deputato can carry on in his other job, and there are lawyers, actors, surgeons who are mps and who never turn up in parliament. If an MP is going to do his job, its full time - so, no other work allowed, and go to work or be sacked for asenteeismo. I dont think one mp to represent 100.000 people is too much - if he does his job properly and I, as a voter, want him to sort out my problems and REPRESENT me. And that is problem at the moment. italy is not a democracy, and still has to become one. There is no representation of the people - only of the political class.
I think the tendency nowadays is to equate fascism with nazism - and they are two very separate things. Fascism as invented by Mussolini and appropriated by the Germans, did change Italy in many ways for the better in the beginning. I dont doubt that there are oldies who remember what it was like before Mussolini came along, and hark back to times when one person could change things. And most Italians if they are honest will also agree that Italy needs a authoritative figure (read Dictator) to change things now. Italy, unfortunately, is blessed with a constitution that makes it impossible to govern - it may be very democratic (and Benigni will be doing a show about it being the best in world soon), but it also guarantees a complete inability to change anything.
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The very nice man at the Agenzia dell'Entrate has told me the following.... As long as you dont sell the house, and you did take residency within the 18 month limit, there will be no problem if you have to renounce your residency before the 5 years is up. If you ever get questions on this, it is enough to get a visura storica of your residence from the anagrafe which shows you were resident in the comune in question at some point. If you were to sell, that another minestrone.... Hope that helps.
hmmm not really indicative of Italy though is it - i mean taking post round in Venice is a bit different from chucking it in the nearest cassonetta in Campania. And to be honest, not sure how much time Donna spends in Italy - she seems to spend most her life in Manhattan where if you dont tip the postman they kidnap you. So, I ve lived all over the place, never tipped a postman and am still here to tell the tale. Never got a Xmas card from an Italian either.
If the works were done before Sept 1967 then you are in the clear - and its difficult to be precise about such things, as there was no paperwork back then. Its amazing how many 1980s extensions were suddenly built 20 years previously. However you do have a strong point in your favour. If this agent is a working geometra, and he is also a valid estate agent who took commission on your purchase, and was cited in the act of sale, he acted illegally. He cannot be both - if he is an agent he should have revolked his geometras licence and vice versa. LEt him know that you know that he should know and he should bend over backwards to accommodate you GRATIS.
Well, I think your agent is being a bit economical with the truth. Legally in 2006 it wasnt necessary to provide all the paperwork that is now required for an act of sale, so yes, some authorisations/non authorisations slipped through the net. However, if its the same agent that sold you the property, I think you are perfectly entitled to say 'why didnt you sort it/alert me at the time - in stead he wanted an easy sale, the 'stupid' foreigner wont know and the old owners got away without paying what they should have paid. I would take the agent to task frankly, at least let him know that you know that he knows etc For the rest - without knowing more its impossible to say whether they will send bulldozers or just sign it off - but it depends on what are the significant changes and where the property is.
If you didnt pay in June, or your comune has fixed an aliquota different to the default, you must pay the difference plus (if late) the sanction and interest, putting a cross in the AVV box if you're using an F24.
well said FLip - -- but have you EVER seen an Italian eat a pizza with a cappuccino ? beer wine water COke - but pizza with a milky coffee must be disgusting in any country - though Starbucks probably has it on offer at hte moment.
At least it's well written! Most expats think that they can cobble together an amusing article without having an idea about how to write. Mind you - pizza and cappuccino ugh..
You paid tax on the purchase price because it was a unita colabenti - ie it wasnt a house / wasnt habitable. Now it is a house, and will have a rendita. However, the calculations were done then, and nothing can change that. If the AdE wants you to pay back something then it will use the original calculations.
I dont think it has anything to do with the amount of members of parliament. It has everything to do with the legal system which has enshrined the nonmutability of a constitution which is already outdated. According to your figures Gaia the US has a representative for every 70.000 of the population while Italy has one for every 100.000 ! I am all for the cutting of parliamentary costs, but I dont think they should cut the number of MP's - the problem is another - In Italy a deputato can carry on in his other job, and there are lawyers, actors, surgeons who are mps and who never turn up in parliament. If an MP is going to do his job, its full time - so, no other work allowed, and go to work or be sacked for asenteeismo. I dont think one mp to represent 100.000 people is too much - if he does his job properly and I, as a voter, want him to sort out my problems and REPRESENT me. And that is problem at the moment. italy is not a democracy, and still has to become one. There is no representation of the people - only of the political class.
I think the tendency nowadays is to equate fascism with nazism - and they are two very separate things. Fascism as invented by Mussolini and appropriated by the Germans, did change Italy in many ways for the better in the beginning. I dont doubt that there are oldies who remember what it was like before Mussolini came along, and hark back to times when one person could change things. And most Italians if they are honest will also agree that Italy needs a authoritative figure (read Dictator) to change things now. Italy, unfortunately, is blessed with a constitution that makes it impossible to govern - it may be very democratic (and Benigni will be doing a show about it being the best in world soon), but it also guarantees a complete inability to change anything.