Ruins - dividing large building in 2?

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05/28/2009 - 05:56

Hi againWondering what the policy is regarding rebuilding something different from what was present before? I understand the bit about volumes constraining the size, but if we find a large ruined farmhouse of 300m2, do we have the option of dividing it into 2 properties - say 1 of 200m2 and 1 of 100m2? I'm not thinking of the second property as a standalone house, but of perhaps turning a long building into a L shape where the short L is a guest annex that is seperate from the main house if you see what I mean?Or are we constrained by what the comune plans have on file?Do we basically have to rebuild almost exactly what was there (externally) before?Apologies if some of this overlaps with what I'd asked on the old forum, but I just wanted to focus on this element and get it clear in my head before we fly out next week for a search ... Thanksbrancusi(looking in Ascoli Piceno region, Le Marche) 



I don't think that there should be much of a problem, unless you are going to actually divide the property into two (two separate titles). That would be a more complicated process and that will depend on local rules and regulations. But if you want to restore the property by sections, I do not think that you will have too much of a problem, providing that you submit to the comune the full plans. I don't think that they could stop you from restoring part of the building right now and leaving the rest to a later date, providing the ruin does not present any problems such as collapsing structures, roofs, etc. Before doing anything, check with an architect or a geometra because many of those rules and regulations are local.Basically, I remember a question in the same line in the previous forum and I told you to keep part of the ruin as it was or making it more pleasing to the eye. This is done in Italy, so it must be allowed by council.Good luck! 

As far as I understand, in this area the general rule is that you need to rebuild to the same footprint and sameorientation but the interior seems to be up to you. As with all things here it probably changes from Comune to Comuneand with the right Geometra/Architect lots of things are possible. There is now also the possibility of adding 20% I believe.Maybe best to speak to the Comune before you buy.Good Luck

in our comune in the prov. of ascoli they are actually very strict in that the footprint and even face of the building has to be as close to the original as possible having said that the possibility of having say seperate entraces created or sometimes a pergola can be possible

I would strongly recommend that you seek out a local Geometra for advice on this matter - He/she will know how to interpret the Commune's rules/requirements, and should be able to advise you on what you can and cannot do  .

The best person to ask is the tecnico for the comune you wish to buy in. It is his job to know the rules for his comune.I agree with Sebastiano 100%. In this area, it is very difficult to do anything other than build on the original footprint.

In reply to by Penny

Yes Penny, we had to have exactly the same as the original layout, including size of windows etc etc (we were in the Ascoli Province too). As far as we understood it is more or less impossible to change any of the existing layout.